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I highly doubt a new shipping startup will serve many areas if it comes into being, not enough volume to justify the cost. And then there's the high delivery charges they will need to just break even. I guess I see it as a pipe dream and wouldn't count on it at all.

Who would invest anything in a new product delivery business when most of those products won't survive the FDA approval process? It's a red herring IMHO.

What I could Envision is one of these Regional Carriers doing B2B servicing in a Large, Dense Metropolitan area like LA County or something like DFW Texas. Or a self contained area like Denver or Portland.

Not maybe a Long Term Solution. Because with the PMTA Hurdle still to be crossed, I Don't think there is a Long Term solution except Stocking Up.

But it might Slow the Sand going thru the Glass for some.
 

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Vapor industry in the USA was built by people addicted to hopium with some startup capital.

Not a whole lot of business sense.

It's just vapor! :banana: lol

Now those same people are trying to start a vapor courier service.

Good luck.
 
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Vapor industry in the USA was built on people addicted to hopium.

Not a whole lot of business sense.

It's just vapor! :banana: lol
The United States of America was built on "people addicted to hopium" - who 'never say never'.

And Racketeering driven by corrupt 'control freak politicians' - Like during Prohibition when the political creeps, the ones that want to now take your vapes away, and who don't know when to quit, especially when funded by super multi billionaires like - you know who.

So even though nicotine use is not as widespread as alcohol, there are enough tobacco users and vapers to generate a whole new underworld - Are you ready to buy your vapes on the dark web and pay with Bitcoin? Do you have any problem with delivery by outlaw motorcycle gangs?

No? - Then welcome to Prohibition 2.0, the new political game where politicians play the game of hypocrisy and generate more crime and corruption which they then profit off of by needing more money for law enforcement and prisons.

Ready for underworld vapes? Or will the government, the same government that poisoned alcohol with Methanol {historical fact} to stop people from drinking it during alcohol prohibition, again poison a bunch of vape products {my opinion} like they did last year when all those people died of a weird lung disease - You don't really think it was coincidence that that lung disease popped up after a barrage of adverting {probably funded by blumborg {sic}} claiming all the teenagers in America where becoming overnight vape addicts ?
 

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A friend of mine (who vapes) said she has seen 2 anti-vaping commercials on TV (streaming TV channel through Roku) tonight. I don't recall ever having seen an anti-vaping commercial. She said the second one was paid for by the FDA and claimed that vaping made you inhale nickel and lead. They are dead set on killing vaping.
 

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the second one was paid for by the FDA and claimed that vaping made you inhale nickel and lead.

Well then it seems like we know how these PMTAs are going to work out for kits, pods systems, tanks, and coil heads.
 

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A friend of mine (who vapes) said she has seen 2 anti-vaping commercials on TV (streaming TV channel through Roku) tonight. I don't recall ever having seen an anti-vaping commercial. She said the second one was paid for by the FDA and claimed that vaping made you inhale nickel and lead. They are dead set on killing vaping.

Just an Observation:

But if you Suddenly start seeing Anti-Vape Media, or there is an Dramatic Up-Tick in Anti-Vaping Media, it is Almost Always a Sign of something that is About to Happen.

It's right from the "Hearts and Minds" playbook. And there is a Reason why "Hearts" come before "Minds".

Because if you can Sway the Heart, it is Easy to Deceive the Mind.
 

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    A friend of mine (who vapes) said she has seen 2 anti-vaping commercials on TV (streaming TV channel through Roku) tonight. I don't recall ever having seen an anti-vaping commercial. She said the second one was paid for by the FDA and claimed that vaping made you inhale nickel and lead. They are dead set on killing vaping.

    I’ve seen that one. They show it on Cartoon Network at night.
     

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    Just an Observation:

    But if you Suddenly start seeing Anti-Vape Media, or there is an Dramatic Up-Tick in Anti-Vaping Media, it is Almost Always a Sign of something that is About to Happen.

    It's right from the "Hearts and Minds" playbook. And there is a Reason why "Hearts" come before "Minds".

    Because if you can Sway the Heart, it is Easy to Deceive the Mind.
    They never stopped the anit-vape agenda - Covid became more important so you didn't see as much of it.

    A few months ago Lester Holt who used to be my favorite evening news broadcaster {NBC} ran a short news piece "Thousands of ANONYMOUS teenagers report becoming addicted to vaping" - NOTE the word "anonymous' so you really don't have any idea who is taking the survey; nor does he announce who funded it {you can bet it was blumborg's {sic} money}.
    And he gave this news deadly seriousness - I no longer watch Lester Holt!

    I do a lot of research - There are several articles showing how Nicotine was shown to have a protective effect from catching Covid - And soon as they came out the tobacco nazis filled the search engines on Google with all kinds of crap, based on no real evidence, to supposedly show how vaping increased your risk of getting Covid - LIES, LIES and DAM LIES!!!

    I could give you better evidence of how politicians increase the risk of disease generally - And cancer specifically, not only because they are driving tobacco users back to smoking cigarettes, but because they increase stress {a known risk for cancer} as they insult our intelligence with their corrupt 'control freak' agendas.
     

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    For those of you who keep blaming 'big tobacco' for the current wave of corrupt politicians trying to curtail and/or kill the vape industry - I don't think so.......Big tobacco was starting to go big into vaping and would have been more than happy to have a new boom to tobacco sales that were tuning into the biggest boom to tobacco since the invention of the cigarette.
    It was the 'tobacco nazis' {modern day Prohibitionist who lost the war against alcohol and drugs and needed a new obsession to satisfy their sickness.


    If you really look at this as a whole all of these new laws, regulations, bans, play into the protection of BT owned vape products insuring they will be in total control and the only remaining vaping market left standing in the end. Look at the BT owned vaping products market, gas stations, convenient stores, anywhere they already sell their tobacco products,
    which have their shipping well in place,
    have already eliminated flavors with the exception of menthol,
    have closed systems.
    Hmmmm coincidence? personally I don't believe in coincidences. Blame BT? Who can blame them it's business as usual. They have had a long standing relationship with our government at all levels, agreements/arrangements/payoffs established decades ago... no way that partnership was going to let upstarts continue to disrupt that.
    It's no mistake all vaping products are classified as tobacco products.
     

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    If you really look at this as a whole all of these new laws, regulations, bans, play into the protection of BT owned vape products insuring they will be in total control and the only remaining vaping market left standing in the end. Look at the BT owned vaping products market, gas stations, convenient stores, anywhere they already sell their tobacco products,
    which have their shipping well in place,
    have already eliminated flavors with the exception of menthol,
    have closed systems.
    Hmmmm coincidence? personally I don't believe in coincidences. Blame BT? Who can blame them it's business as usual. They have had a long standing relationship with our government at all levels, agreements/arrangements/payoffs established decades ago... no way that partnership was going to let upstarts continue to disrupt that.
    It's no mistake all vaping products are classified as tobacco products.
    In 1964 the Surgeion Generals report on smoking came out - It stated all cigarette smoking was bad and that cigarette smokers who smoked 2.5 packs of cigarettes a day or more had 20X the lung cancer rate
    - Does that sound like the government was trying to befriend big tobacco?

    If you are trying to say that government regulations are leaving only a small market left and big tobacco is trying to grab it - that might be - And at this point they may be the only ones left that can afford the lawyers needed to control the tobacco nazis who have, can, and will try to destroy any enjoyment of any tobacco product, anywhere - And are not in the least bit concerned that one tobacco product is safer than another.

    Again, these are the same Prohibitionists that created Prohibition of alcohol and the rise of the modern underworld.

    I really don't know how to fight them. Little Mickey Blumborg {sic} is a super billionaire Reptilian control freak, whose anti-tobacco agenda and reason, may only be understood by him.

    Believers in aliens {from other planets] accept that there is a race of 'Reptilians' {Doesn't Blumborg {sic} look lkie a reptile?}- and they are not friendly to Humans - of course they may not like humans vaping a relatively safe product and would rather have them smoke a product that will shorten their life.

    To big tobacco it is business - To Al Capone who consolidated most of the alcohol business in Chicago during alcohol prohibition it also was business.

    But as the government tries to regulate vaping out of business they should remember:

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