Are you done stocking up?

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The 1st one came as a Check.
The 2nd one came as a Debt Card. Which I almost Tossed thinking it was a come-on.
This one just showed up in my Bank Account.

Never heard of the debit card thing for the stimulus. My 2 stimulus checks so far were direct deposit. They had my bank account info from my tax return.
 
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Check the order confirmation email. There should be a link in it to check order status.

Yes. checked the confirmation email, clicked the link, and it took me back to the "thank you for your order" page with all the details. This time I clicked to get tracking and updates. If no reply email, a phone call will be made.
 

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I need to get a sonic cleaner I guess, maybe a cheap small one if I can sell it as a jewelry cleaner for diamonds it's a dotmod Petri that I loved but it's got like a cactus berry smell I juts can't shake, stripped it to the peek and won't come clean. I imagine using strong flavors could be a part of it, likely before I diy juice. I just need a few more tanks I guess, juggernaut sounds good, an intake and couple mesh, I think a SC Supreme maybe. Maybe just one more nice mod... And some new batteries, I felt pretty good this morning but now it feels like more hammers are dropping and better just get fully self sufficient two times over
 

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    I need to get a sonic cleaner I guess, maybe a cheap small one if I can sell it as a jewelry cleaner for diamonds it's a dotmod Petri that I loved but it's got like a cactus berry smell I juts can't shake, stripped it to the peek and won't come clean. I imagine using strong flavors could be a part of it, likely before I diy juice. I just need a few more tanks I guess, juggernaut sounds good, an intake and couple mesh, I think a SC Supreme maybe. Maybe just one more nice mod... And some new batteries, I felt pretty good this morning but now it feels like more hammers are dropping and better just get fully self sufficient two times over
    I recently picked up a 2nd sonic cleaner at the Goodwill.

    To get rid of strong flavors, I add a few drops of mouthwash, soak overnight and then rinse thoroughly.
     

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    I was asking whether or not a test could be devised to differentiate cotinine from smoking cigarettes and cotinine from vaping.

    Yes, there is a test that can tell if the cotinine came from tobacco or non tobacco use. I can’t remember what it is called, but will post when I come across it again.
    I’ve been working in a Medical Review Office for 15 years. What we do is review results from drug tests. When a sample is tested at a lab (Quest, Labcorp, Medtox, and many others) it gets reported to an MRO (us). Our function is to understand the drugs & their metabolites & determine, through an interview with the donor, whether there was a legitimate medical explanation for the result. If there is, we report a negative result.
    Now, we don’t interview positives for Cotinine or Alcohol, because they are not prescription meds. However, we do have customers who order these tests. Just Friday I spoke to a customer who was ordering a cotinine test that I hadn’t seen before & the name of eludes me right now, but the gist of it is that i think it looks for another compound found in the plant itself which would determine if the nicotine (cotinine) came from the whole leaf or from another source.
    There is a similar test for THC to determine if the source is from the plant or from the prescription drug Dronabinal (Marinol). The scrip is synthetic THC, so when someone has that scrip the employer can order a THC-v test. If that is positive, it is not from the med that contains only THC delta9.
    I’ll post the name of the test when I come across it again.


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    Yes, there is a test that can tell if the cotinine came from tobacco or non tobacco use. I can’t remember what it is called, but will post when I come across it again.
    I’ve been working in a Medical Review Office for 15 years. What we do is review results from drug tests. When a sample is tested at a lab (Quest, Labcorp, Medtox, and many others) it gets reported to an MRO (us). Our function is to understand the drugs & their metabolites & determine, through an interview with the donor, whether there was a legitimate medical explanation for the result. If there is, we report a negative result.
    Now, we don’t interview positives for Cotinine or Alcohol, because they are not prescription meds. However, we do have customers who order these tests. Just Friday I spoke to a customer who was ordering a cotinine test that I hadn’t seen before & the name of eludes me right now, but the gist of it is that i think it looks for another compound found in the plant itself which would determine if the nicotine (cotinine) came from the whole leaf or from another source.
    There is a similar test for THC to determine if the source is from the plant or from the prescription drug Dronabinal (Marinol). The scrip is synthetic THC, so when someone has that scrip the employer can order a THC-v test. If that is positive, it is not from the med that contains only THC delta9.
    I’ll post the name of the test when I come across it again.


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    Interesting. So I can understand the different THC tests, but do you happen to know why an employer (or anyone else) would want to know if someone has cotinine in their system that wasn't created because of leaf tobacco use? Are they looking for "proof" of vaping?
     

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    Well, I thought I was pretty much done with my stocking up months ago. Hmmm...
    I've been tempted by shiny new mods I don't really need, but have steered away from them.
    But, I went in and bought yet another liter of nic base. Now with about 4.3 liters on hand, it should outlast me.
    And I've been spending a lot of time browsing the closeout sales for irresistible bargains, but not finding anything irresistible in view of the existing stash. I did buy some glass bottles, syringes and needles. Think I'll pick up some more Aspire Vape Snaps too. They've turned out to very useful for me.

    Maybe I can start saving money now?
     

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    Interesting. So I can understand the different THC tests, but do you happen to know why an employer (or anyone else) would want to know if someone has cotinine in their system that wasn't created because of leaf tobacco use? Are they looking for "proof" of vaping?

    Might have to due with if you have a Patch on your Arm.
     

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    Well, I thought I was pretty much done with my stocking up months ago. Hmmm...
    I've been tempted by shiny new mods I don't really need, but have steered away from them.
    But, I went in and bought yet another liter of nic base. Now with about 4.3 liters on hand, it should outlast me.
    And I've been spending a lot of time browsing the closeout sales for irresistible bargains, but not finding anything irresistible in view of the existing stash. I did buy some glass bottles, syringes and needles. Think I'll pick up some more Aspire Vape Snaps too. They've turned out to very useful for me.

    Maybe I can start saving money now?

    My last purchase (if it happens) will be to buy some clearance coils I found that should work in any tank that takes the Atlantis coil form factor. I bought one pack and they'll be here tomorrow. Sitting at the local PO right now. I'll hopefully to have a couple days to test one out to see if they are worth it (assuming they even fit). If they do, I'm buying out their remaining stock. I hope they'll be taking orders by then - they don't have a notice on their site of when they will stop taking orders.

    I don't have time at this point to test their longevity, but at $2.20 a pack shipped it'll be worth it if they only last 15 days. I normally get 25+ days out of the original coils.

    ETA: I lied :p, my last purchase will be a test purchase from Fasttech in april or may with my rebate points and a gift cert I have.
     
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    Might have to due with if you have a Patch on your Arm.

    But I believe that the therapeutic nicotine products, like the patches, the gum, and such are nicotine derived from tobacco, just like the nicotine we vape. I do not think they use synthetic nicotine in them. I could be wrong, but there is no advantage and it is not cost effective. Now some brand name patch may come out and advertise it uses synthetic nicotine as an advertising ploy, at double the cost. Now if it turns out that the synthetic nicotine can bypass the cotinine test for tobacco use, it may be an advantage, but remember synthetic nicotine is available for vaping too.
     

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    But I believe that the therapeutic nicotine products, like the patches, the gum, and such are nicotine derived from tobacco, just like the nicotine we vape. I do not think they use synthetic nicotine in them. I could be wrong, but there is no advantage and it is not cost effective. Now some brand name patch may come out and advertise it uses synthetic nicotine as an advertising ploy, at double the cost. Now if it turns out that the synthetic nicotine can bypass the cotinine test for tobacco use, it may be an advantage, but remember synthetic nicotine is available for vaping too.

    I believe that Most of the Smoking Cessation Product use Synthetic Nicotine.

    Because in this Delivery Method, Nicotine is considered a Drug. And has to Comply with FDA Regs for a Drug. So it is easier to achieve Quality Levels via a Synthetic than it is from Processing Leaf Tobacco. Which tend to have Trace (or in some cases Not-so-Trace) amount of Fertilizers and Pesticides in them. Price per mg Isn't as critical also.

    But I could be wrong.
     

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    I don't have time at this point to test their longevity, but at $2.20 a pack shipped it'll be worth it if they only last 15 days.
    I'd snatch up $2.20/pack too! Do you know where I could find such a deal on Nautilus, Triton Mini, or Nautilus X coils?
     
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    I'd snatch up $2.20/pack too! Do you know where I could find such a deal on Nautilus, Triton Mini, or Nautilus X coils?

    I think Ejuicesteals might have the Triton Mini coils. Other than that, no clue. I happened across my coils by accident. Incidentally that coil is all they have that's truly clearance priced. So I'm a bit skepitcal as to the quality, hence I only bought one pack with a so-so priced mod.
     

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    I believe that Most of the Smoking Cessation Product use Synthetic Nicotine.

    Because in this Delivery Method, Nicotine is considered a Drug. And has to Comply with FDA Regs for a Drug. So it is easier to achieve Quality Levels via a Synthetic than it is from Processing Leaf Tobacco. Which tend to have Trace (or in some cases Not-so-Trace) amount of Fertilizers and Pesticides in them. Price per mg Isn't as critical also.

    But I could be wrong.

    Except that NRTs have been around since 1986 and synthetic nicotine is relatively new, in the last few years. The nicotine for NRTs is pharmaceutical grade, which means it is ultra pure, but from the research I did, there was no mention of synthetics which would be a big selling point for those quitting. "We dont use tobacco " it wasn't even mentioned, because there wasn't options. Nicotine from vegetables is impractical and expensive, synthetic nicotine didn't exist until recently. That left tobacco. Again, newer ones may change, but synthetic tobacco doesn't add any benefits physiologically than tobacco derived nicotine, just marketing and maybe in clinical laboratory testing.
     

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    I don't remember where, maybe here, but I read somewhere a few weeks ago that the nic gums and lozenges use very low grade nicotine base. Gotta find out where I saw that. Someone said they worked at a factory that made such stuff and the base was brown as hell. Was it true? No clue. Not sure what truth is anymore lol
     
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    I don;t remember where, maybe here, but I read somewhere a few weeks ago that the nic gums and lozenges use very low grad nicotine base. Gotta find out where I saw that. Someone said they worked at a factory that mad them and the base was brown as hell. Was it true? No clue. Not sure what truth is anymore lol
    Must be why those things taste so gross!
     

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    I believe that Most of the Smoking Cessation Product use Synthetic Nicotine.

    Because in this Delivery Method, Nicotine is considered a Drug. And has to Comply with FDA Regs for a Drug. So it is easier to achieve Quality Levels via a Synthetic than it is from Processing Leaf Tobacco. Which tend to have Trace (or in some cases Not-so-Trace) amount of Fertilizers and Pesticides in them. Price per mg Isn't as critical also.

    But I could be wrong.

    I am guess no they do not use synthetic nicotine.
    in this article by Boston college law review on the
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    Closing the Regulatory Gap for Synthetic Nicotine Products

    This Article argues that the FDA can, and should, address this problem by regulating synthetic nicotine products as drugs.
    ...if the FDA is seeking to “comprehensively” regulate nicotine, there is still a notable regulatory gap: synthetic nicotine. In just the past few years, synthetic nicotine—which is synthesized through chemical reactions in a lab—has entered the consumer marketplace, primarily as an ingredient for use in e-cigarette liquids. The sellers of such synthetic nicotine products celebrated the FDA’s acknowledgement that it cannot regulate such products under the TCA, because they are not “made or derived from tobacco.” This leaves a regulatory gap that may become much more significant as the FDA begins to regulate e-cigarettes and as the price of synthetic nicotine continues to fall.
     

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