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cdmcfud

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I've got a set of ten 901's last year that were all bad. Each had a nasty burnt
electrical taste to them. They are in my drawer somewhere.
Jan. I got a ten set of 801's they had the same thing. These were from a different vendor.
I've cleaned with EverClear,boiled, and just tired to vape it out. The longest one lasted was four days.
Some times the vendors just get bad atomizers.
 

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I've got a set of ten 901's last year that were all bad. Each had a nasty burnt
electrical taste to them. They are in my drawer somewhere.
Jan. I got a ten set of 801's they had the same thing. These were from a different vendor.
I've cleaned with EverClear,boiled, and just tired to vape it out. The longest one lasted was four days.
Some times the vendors just get bad atomizers.

This is true, but this thread is for members to post their problems with a particular manufacturing defect in the Joye 510 atty.

I know it's a long thread but in it there are results from testing these attys and we want to know if Joye is continuing to manufacture these with the inferior nickle mesh that crumbles and lets off a foul taste and smell.

BobW, I suggest you let your vendor know and offer to send them your defective attys.
 

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I have to say I started ordering my attys from Value vapor which posts the manu date and I have not had one 901 or 510 that had that burnt nasty they call it primer taste. They have all been great. I removed the bridge and wic on some of my ones from other vendors and that helped a lot but you have to drip to use those. Gooddog Pm me if you need a 901 atty.
 

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Blahhh got my first two bad joye attys about a week ago with this same bad burnt taste everyones talking about. Nothing I do takes it away. No juice flav. makes it less nasty. Damn you joye >: (

Btw, if it helps any, all of my good 510 Atomizers (6 of them) are all black, and the two bad ones i just got are the chrome/silver and have that burnt taste.
 

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Just got my first horked atty. From well known supplier, claims genuine Joye.
Looks like problem is part is just getting too hot. W/out the cartridge on, I've hit the button on both my "good" ones and my "bad" one. "Good" ones: little bit of sizzle and almost a smooth looking small vapor cloud roiling around the mesh. "Bad" one: gets so hot, so quick, it lights up bright orange with heat. Like a car cigarette lighter.
It's not the priming fluid, it's not that it's dry. Have tried multiple mods to fix it- no go.
Have pulled the cart off real quick when i've tasted burnt... stuff- and there is SMOKE, not vapor. On blue foam mods- the atty burns a black hole into it.
Two people I know have had problems with the atty's from the 510 kits from this retailer doing same thing. Until I received my atty from the retailer and had the same experience, I thought my people were cracked, or doing something wrong.

Sad thing- one of the people with the bad kits has a lot of juice in the med/sci community and could have had a positive effect on the e-cig cause.
 

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I got a lousy burnt taste all of a sudden on my of my cheapos. I thought the attys were done and I just had enough. After playing Dr. Destructo I just cut the end of one of the carts just enough to get more of the atty into the juice sleeve and voila! presto! etc.! It works like new. Why it took nearly 3 weeks to go bad? Dunno. It's fixed though, and whereas I would get about 6 puffs (harsh ones) out of it before making a lemon sucking face, now I vape for over an hour without an issue on the same cart and atty.

Try that easy mod, just about 1/8th of an inch off the end. I've seen that suggestion before but this is the first time I tried it, after trying the dart, the fluval, the poly, etc. and focusing on the filler. It just wasn't it.

My reference for taste was a burnt spent taste, not as if the atty was contacting something but as if all I was vaping WAS the atty, wet or not.
 

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I've found that TW's attys have some sort of crap in them from factory that tastes horrible, really horrible.

If I use some compressed air and blow all of it out before using it, it only takes an hour or two to get the bad taste out.


Earlier posts...and my new LR 510 atty's would suggest that is it more than just some crap that can be blown out.

I have blown them out, soaked, rinsed, dry burned some, NO dry burn to others, and it still tastes nasty.

Flooding it results in no vapor.......draining to get some vapor results in the same "burning sock" taste. :(
 

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Earlier posts...and my new LR 510 atty's would suggest that is it more than just some crap that can be blown out.

I have blown them out, soaked, rinsed, dry burned some, NO dry burn to others, and it still tastes nasty.

Flooding it results in no vapor.......draining to get some vapor results in the same "burning sock" taste. :(

Yeah, I think some missed the important facts that there were/are some bad attys out there that have inferior nickle mesh. It doesn't matter what technique is used it doesn't keep the mesh from crumbling and giving off a nasty taste.

Since my original eight I haven't had a problem but I'm careful who I buy from now and seldom buy regular 510 Joyes.

The highly respected vendor that I kept up-to-date on the problem and the results of testing by experts never did make it right with me. I didn't ask for a refund but was told they would take care of me... never happened. Other customers were given refunds but it's funny how memories fade when companies become successful! Oh well, there are plenty of deserving e-cig suppliers to give my money to.

I would recommend you don't use those particular attys and notify the vendor you bought them from. That's the only way to keep Joye's quality control in check.
 

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GoodDog, care to share where you presently buy your atties from?

Awhile back I took the plunge and bought two of Janty's 510 attys with the 6 month warranty to use on my 5v mods. So far they have been working great. I figure 2 a year isn't bad even at the price.

Since the LR attys came out I've mostly been using those on my eGos. I'm also using XtremeVaping's new attys and I like them. They are suppose to be somewhere between regular and LR. They don't leak as bad at the LRs when dripping.

GoodProphets
has eGo attys that hold over 2ml of juice and I have to say these have been my favorite toy lately. I love how hardy they are and how I only have to fool with my PV once a day. Although I do keep several PVs going at once with different flavors and some I use for dripping.

These are just my main vendors and it doesn't mean there aren't many others that carry the same quality. ECF has many great suppliers that will stand behind their products... and a few that won't. I prefer finding the ones I feel comfortable with and sticking with them for the most part.
 

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I know it's been awhile since all the nasty-crumbly nickel mesh attys were in distribution, but does anyone know if there are still some floating around out there?

I think I just got one, and so I'm wondering if I should just get rid of it or if I should try to clean it out...

Thank you for reading the thread before posting. :) Cleaning will do nothing to correct the inferior nichol mesh used in some of the Joye Attys awhile back. I don't know if this nichol is still being used but I would suggest you contact your supplier for an exchange.

First be sure it isn't just a dry atty - most are and not really a manufacturer's defect. Always keep your atty very wet. I keep a few going at the same time and switch off so I'm not overheating them. Since these bad attys I haven't lost one and even these didn't burn out on me just tasted nasty. When I say nasty, I mean bad enough to leave the smell in my house for hours after using one.

@thebat... the best way to know what atty you have is to ask your supplier. Many look alike and it's hard to know. Does yours have a metal ring around the nichol mesh or is it more like an oval, white cup?
 

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@thebat... the best way to know what atty you have is to ask your supplier. Many look alike and it's hard to know. Does yours have a metal ring around the nichol mesh or is it more like an oval, white cup?
HMMM lol I cant tell but I dont think I see anything white..

I do see the mesh but dont see anything else
 

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Wow, this thread is huge. I've got a similar situation, I only use Joye 510 attys from mypvshop, got a batch of 5 a few months back. I usually have to prime them with 4-6 drops in order to get away from the burnt flavor (not quite toxic tasting, but definitely not the vanilla or waffle that my roommate enjoys with his carto). After that, it hits fine for about 4 hits, and then right back to the burnt flavor again.
I wonder, and forgive me if this has been brought up (I haven't gone through all 40 pages of this thread), but could it be that my liquid is burning off to quickly? I use VG Rath Juice from ecigexpress, and it's very thin liquid. Anybody think adding a little pure VG might help, make it a little more viscous?

edit: Here's my cleaning method, may help. I take some steaming hot water and run it through my attys, but I don't soak them. I blow the water out through each end, prime it with 4 drops, do a few quick burns, then prime it with a few more. This method has worked on previous attys when I was using my old 901.
 
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livethechoice, try dripping a few drops of your juice or plain VG directly on the atty and see if it still tastes bad. Adding VG to your mix might help but if you do that only use a few drops to 2-3ml of the flavored juice so you don't ruin the whole batch if it doesn't work. There have been some problems lately with Rath juice but I don't think it's the same as you're having. Yours sounds more like a dry or bad atty.

thebat1, if you don't see a metal ring then you could have a Joye. I honestly haven't kept up with the atty problems since switching to LR 510s and that solving all my issues with 510s. Are you having problems?
 

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First be sure it isn't just a dry atty - most are and not really a manufacturer's defect. Always keep your atty very wet. I keep a few going at the same time and switch off so I'm not overheating them. Since these bad attys I haven't lost one and even these didn't burn out on me just tasted nasty. When I say nasty, I mean bad enough to leave the smell in my house for hours after using one.

Thanks for this. I wasn't sure if it stank up the house since I had the burning smell all through my sinuses, so I asked my husband and he said he didn't smell anything. After a good cleaning and priming, it is now working just fine and I think I just let it get too dry.

Lesson learned. :)
 
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