Burnt taste with all my attys

[paulyc44]

I am so sick of all these theories. IT'S SIMPLE...

Char builds up on the wick over time and is impossible to clean off entirely. You may be able to get some off with all these methods people come up with but the bottom line is you'll never get it back to new. Disect an atty and you will see for yourself. Remover the bridge and look at the wick running through the coil. It looks like charcoal. Scrape away at it with a pin and you'll see what I am talking about. Atty's are disposable.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

I am so sick of all these theories. IT'S SIMPLE...

Char builds up on the wick over time and is impossible to clean off entirely. You may be able to get some off with all these methods people come up with but the bottom line is you'll never get it back to new. Disect an atty and you will see for yourself. Remover the bridge and look at the wick running through the coil. It looks like charcoal. Scrape away at it with a pin and you'll see what I am talking about. Atty's are disposable.

Hi Paul,

This thread is not about cleaning atomizers or the fact that they are disposable. It is about a manufactures defect in using nickel mesh wicking that burns and gives off a foul taste. It is an issue that has been reported to the main manufactures and hopefully we will see it resolved soon.

My thoughts are though, that they are going to sell off all these bad 510 atomizers instead of recalling them.


Sun

 

[bookspook]

Troll? or the real deal?

Don't think it's a troll.......Just happens to be from China, but they do a better job with English than I do with Chinese!

 

[GoodDog]

I think it's infulent by three aspects:
1.we should keep the atomizer moist ,if the liquid is used out,it may smelling a little burnt taste,because it works like this :liquid flow to atomizer by line(which material can bear high temperature),when you smoke ,the heating wire are trun red,so ,if there is no liquid ,it only can burn the lines,so smelling burnt.If the liquid is enough ,i think it will much better
2.The liquid quality is too bad ,i think bad liquid of course lead to bad smelling.
3.Maybe we should smoking one mouth,then ,after 5 seconds,we begin the second,because if we don't have any stop but continuous,it means the heating wire still burning.
4.Maybe also infulent by the structure in side.Different design maybe have different questions,may be we should find a good desing in side,For easy change the liquild to smoking .

ninaxiong, thanks to bookspook I reread your post. I apologize for not trying to understand what you were saying.

Yes, most of the time the burnt taste comes from what you are describing however, what we are talking about here is much worse than this dry atty taste.

If you read Sun Vaporer's posts and especially his findings when testing several attys you'll see that there has been a manufacturing problem with Joyetech. The moderators in the "Ask an Expert" forums here at ECF have been swamped with complaints about this so its not an incident that only affected a few attys. The concern is that Joytech finds the problem, remedies it and doesn't try to avoid accepting responsibility.

Many suppliers are dependent on Joytech for the majority of their sales and are in an awkward position. On one hand their loyalty lies with the manufacturer of the products they sell but they also have a loyalty to their customers - at least the suppliers that care and are in it for the long run.

I don't want to let this drop because I feel an alliance with the consumer and people new to vaping. I don't want them to give up and go back to analogs because of a problem that they're told is "user error" when its not. I want to feel confident that manufacturers in China are going to do what's right and not refuse to accept responsibility for a defective product. It hurts not only Joyetech's reputation but the reputation of all Chinese manufacturers of PVs.

 

[gl00pp]

I have no problem with broken english or anything like that. Seemed a bit fishy is all.
Maybe not a troll...perhaps a "quality control" tester who has been inhaling too much burning plastic!

 

[The Revelator]

well the 510 atty I ordered seems to have burnt out as well.... I've only been using it for two days?

Where can I get a 510 atomizer that will WORK without this burning taking place?


EDIT

I just discovered this burnt flavor I was getting was a result of my RY 4 ejuice which seems to have gone bad.

 

[jimik]

Just received a five pack of regular 510 atomizers from TW, same symptoms. Metallic taste left in the mouth, barely any vapor while using different liquids.

I can barely taste my tastyvapor right now, instead I get a mouth full of nasty metallic tasting crap. Tried it on my older batteries, new tornado battery, different cart. I switch over to the atty I use exclusively for fireball liquid, plumes of vapor tastes great.


Please people, keep us posted. I'm going with 801s until the manufacturer gets this sorted out. I love the 510, before this I've never had this sort of problem.

 

[GoodDog]

Just received a five pack of regular 510 atomizers from TW, same symptoms. Metallic taste left in the mouth, barely any vapor while using different liquids.

I can barely taste my tastyvapor right now, instead I get a mouth full of nasty metallic tasting crap. Tried it on my older batteries, new tornado battery, different cart. I switch over to the atty I use exclusively for fireball liquid, plumes of vapor tastes great.


Please people, keep us posted. I'm going with 801s until the manufacturer gets this sorted out. I love the 510, before this I've never had this sort of problem.

You've been vaping long enough to know the difference between user mistakes that make an atty taste bad and a manufacturer's defect. I just don't know where to take this from here other than hoping our suppliers will stand up for us and put pressure on Joye.

Unfortunately, TW won't do anything for you even though Joye would credit them for the faulty product. Buying the 5-packs from TW is a crap-shoot and adding the problem Joye is having makes it that much more of a gamble. Not many have posted (that I've seen) about having this particular "defect" with the ones from TW so I'm hoping it's an isolated incident and not proving to be an escalating problem involving more than one factory.

 

[jimik]

You've been vaping long enough to know the difference between user mistakes that make an atty taste bad and a manufacturer's defect. I just don't know where to take this from here other than hoping our suppliers will stand up for us and put pressure on Joye.

Unfortunately, TW won't do anything for you even though Joye would credit them for the faulty product. Buying the 5-packs from TW is a crap-shoot and adding the problem Joye is having makes it that much more of a gamble. Not many have posted (that I've seen) about having this particular "defect" with the ones from TW so I'm hoping it's an isolated incident and not proving to be an escalating problem involving more than one factory.

I popped open my second atomizer, and this one is working much nicer. No nasty taste and great vapor. If no one else seems to be having problems with TW, I may have just run into bad luck with the first one.

 

[GoodDog]

I popped open my second atomizer, and this one is working much nicer. No nasty taste and great vapor. If no one else seems to be having problems with TW, I may have just run into bad luck with the first one.

I don't know that for a fact so please keep us posted.

 

[Transformer]

I'm so frustrated that I'm getting ready to give up on the 510! I've done everything I can think of to get rid of the nasty burnt flavor I get after vaping awhile with my 510. I've tried nearly every cart mod in this forum, bought new atties, new juices (different suppliers) and still get this taste. It leaves my mouth almost sore and coated with a puke film. It's fine for the first few drops of juice but when the atty heats up (it seems) the taste comes back.

I soaked one atty in Crest Mouthwash and blow the other attys out often, but still no luck. The taste doesn't feel right and I'm getting quite concerned. When I do a dry burn the smell of something (toxic smelling) doesn't stop.

I need to figure this out soon or I'm afraid I'll go back to analogs and that would break my heart!!! Should I buy a different PV? Please help!

try take couple of drags before you activate the manual battery button.Just don't suck so hard that you get juice in your mouth. I try this and the it worked. Apparently this helps get the liquid to the top of the cart and the atomizer gets wet before it starts to heat up.

 

[GoodDog]

try take couple of drags before you activate the manual battery button.Just don't suck so hard that you get juice in your mouth. I try this and the it worked. Apparently this helps get the liquid to the top of the cart and the atomizer gets wet before it starts to heat up.

Thanks Transformer, but keep reading.

 

[Transformer]

I had the same problem until I accidentally found a way to get rid of the burnt taste. I took a couple of drags without pressing the battery button one day and got a mouth full of juice. Apparently this helps get the liquid suck up to the top of the cart. When I activate the battery after I did this. The burnt taste went away. Now I just take a couple of drags about 2 seconds or so before I turn the battery on. I've not have the burnt taste for a while now. Try it and see if this will work for you. Just don't suck so hard that you get juice in your mouth.

Have you tried taking out the wick ? That's the tiny nylon hair that's at the bottom of the triangular shape part of the atomizer. Over time the wick is covered with crud from the juice. this may be the bad taste you're getting. I saw this on you tube " Removing the wick " video.

all the new atomizers comes with a primer inside. you need to blow the liquid out first. put the battery connection end in your mouth and blow hard into it with a paper towel on the other end to catch the liquid primer. If you leave the primer in it. it will taste bad for a while before it gets burnt off.

 

[Transformer]

Same thing happened to me when I first got my 510. I got rid of the burnt taste by sucking on the cart hard for a couple seconds without pushing the battery button first. This has worked for me. Also, I only put the filler at the top flat part of the cart and fill the rest with liquid. I use fluval for fill and cut a thin piece about 1/4" x 3/4" and roll it up like a roll of toilet paper and put it in on it's end. The roll will expand and hold itself in place. It also allow the liquid come up to the filler easier since there's air gap in between rolls. I have not had any burnt taste since I use this method.

 

[o CUBBY o]

You've been vaping long enough to know the difference between user mistakes that make an atty taste bad and a manufacturer's defect. I just don't know where to take this from here other than hoping our suppliers will stand up for us and put pressure on Joye.

Unfortunately, TW won't do anything for you even though Joye would credit them for the faulty product. Buying the 5-packs from TW is a crap-shoot and adding the problem Joye is having makes it that much more of a gamble. Not many have posted (that I've seen) about having this particular "defect" with the ones from TW so I'm hoping it's an isolated incident and not proving to be an escalating problem involving more than one factory.

Just wanted to let you guys know that all of my problem attys have come from TW. One five pack where all but 1 were terrible. After that, I ordered two singles, one of which was terrible. Then I ordered yet another 5 pack, 2 out of the 5 were terrible. And yes, TW will do absolutely nothing for you with the five packs except tell you they are not under warranty.

 

[Vhal]

just got my low resistance attys in from TW today.

they dont work very well with my USB passthrough. it will work, and then either stop working or take about 5-6 seconds before it will work again.

waiting to get through all the primer taste before making a judgement as to whether or not the flavor is any better. so far though, there is no burnt metallic taste.

one of the 3 bauway atomizers i got from mad vapes died after about 8 days. im hoping they will exchange it for me. was the only 1 of the 3 that worked to my standards.

 

[Vhal]

these LR atomizers definately dont wick very well. they heat up much faster. but iv tried several different cart mods to accomodate them and nothing is really working. and the dry coil taste from these is STRONG!

 

[aldreis]

Troll? or the real deal?

Look at ninaxiong’s Manufacturer status. It can only be given by the admins. So, at least they think it's the real deal.

 

[Transformer]

I bought my 510 about a week ago and it worked fine for the first day. Then I kept getting the burnt taste no matter if i keep the cart filled with liquid. I did so research and found a you tube video called " Removing the wick " I removed the wick at the base of the triangular shaped metal piece of the atty and I also take a couple of hard draws before I press the battery button. I have not had anymore burnt taste for a week now. I think the hard draws did the trick and removed the wick also seems to have no effect of hurting the atty. I suggest trying the hard draw and removing the wick and see if it works for you. I'm guessing that the hard draws help to prime the atty and gets it wet so you don't get a dry atty when the battery is activated. Good Luck !!

 

[BobW]

I bought 12 attys from a fairly well know vendor ,down to my last 3. These were in little white boxes with clear plastic wrappers. I think they were Joye. Anyway here's what I noticed. With about 5 of them the mesh bridge was about half the width as the others. They were a dark gray color almost like they were used. They had the bad taste and the mesh burned or what ever you call it. I just got another tonight about 2 hours ago.
You should see the difference from the old one I replaced and this new one. The new looks about 100 years old after only 2 hours. The mesh on the old one looks used but is in far better shape. Changed it out because coil is coated.