I'm sorry to hear about your dad Clyde. 
Hope you're all doing as well as possible.
Hope you're all doing as well as possible.Carlos Juice Box (CJB) initial impressions
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You are very wise unlike Chucklehead he is like dealing with a angry baby crying everytime i post about the fact that i did not enjoy the juicebox
and when i sold it with many other items for exactly what i purchased it for 185 bux i was somehow wrong go figure!!!!
it's ok he will continue to follow me around he is my number 1 fan
Lol just look at his avatar it suits him well
TELL EM CLYDE!!!
As My Daddy would say..
"I'll break off a pine top and break it off on your ... !!!"
Still vaping on the CJB.
1. It's still holding up to my ham-handed chain vaping. Yeah, it's only a week, but that's twice as long as before the repair.
2. God, it loves the thick VG. Trying the last of my mist-styx chocolate on it, and itsa nize! Unfortunately, I don't think they carry that flavor anymore. Flavor is very good. Will have to try some of my favorite PG with a little VG filler mixed in to see how it vapes and tastes.
3. Best results in vape so far is holding it horizontally with mouthpiece sticking up (like a pipe) and taking long, slow, hard drags. Noisy, though. Was sitting next to a slightly older woman in a hour long meeting, and she grabbed my hand and silently gave me her best momma-in-church-you-kids-better-stop-that-RIGHT-NOW! look twenty minutes into it. Vaping in vertical position produces little or no vape to date.
4. No need to drip til you drop (though I may try that to see if it speeds up the atty seasoning process). Believe that you get the best results with only a small amount of juice in the bottle, and try not to fill it over half full.
5. And this may be due to the vagaries of memory, but it seems like the volume, warmth, thickness and taste of the vape was better in its original configuration than before the repair and retooling of the atty. But the learning curve has been flattened dramatically, and it's standing up to heavy use. Hopefully, this will improve as the atty seasons a bit with use.
6. And so far, it's a tough call as to whether I prefer VG on the revised CJB or PG with the reo wooden box with the 801 atty. Again, the carlos atty may need seasoning through more use, but that says a lot about how the competition has heated up in the 3rd gen modders arena.
1. It's still holding up to my ham-handed chain vaping. Yeah, it's only a week, but that's twice as long as before the repair.
2. God, it loves the thick VG. Trying the last of my mist-styx chocolate on it, and itsa nize! Unfortunately, I don't think they carry that flavor anymore. Flavor is very good. Will have to try some of my favorite PG with a little VG filler mixed in to see how it vapes and tastes.
3. Best results in vape so far is holding it horizontally with mouthpiece sticking up (like a pipe) and taking long, slow, hard drags. Noisy, though. Was sitting next to a slightly older woman in a hour long meeting, and she grabbed my hand and silently gave me her best momma-in-church-you-kids-better-stop-that-RIGHT-NOW! look twenty minutes into it. Vaping in vertical position produces little or no vape to date.
4. No need to drip til you drop (though I may try that to see if it speeds up the atty seasoning process). Believe that you get the best results with only a small amount of juice in the bottle, and try not to fill it over half full.
5. And this may be due to the vagaries of memory, but it seems like the volume, warmth, thickness and taste of the vape was better in its original configuration than before the repair and retooling of the atty. But the learning curve has been flattened dramatically, and it's standing up to heavy use. Hopefully, this will improve as the atty seasons a bit with use.
6. And so far, it's a tough call as to whether I prefer VG on the revised CJB or PG with the reo wooden box with the 801 atty. Again, the carlos atty may need seasoning through more use, but that says a lot about how the competition has heated up in the 3rd gen modders arena.
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Clyde, I have been using a CJB I got from ZERO for about 2 1/2 weeks now. In fact today is my first day without it by my side! I have used some PG/VG 80/20 mixes through it and it works great. To get used to how much bottle squeeze to do, I put it up to my good ear, fire it and push on the bottle real slow until I hear the sizzle increase. Then vape till flavor drops. Repeat. Works well. I know a lot of people make fun of this being a big box mod, but the atty is what makes this thing worthwhile IMO, especially with the right juice in it.
Then I ran some straight PG Flu Cured for a bit. The taste was unbearable... unless I dripped it, vaped, repeat. Then it was awesome!!! If I used the bottle for bottom feeding, I would get chemical taste. The big thing is different juice in the CJB makes a huge difference in it's performance and in the taste. YMMV because of this!
I also have given the atty two vodka bathes since owning it. One to get menthol lingering out from ZERO and second to get the atty clean to change flavors.
I have ran AW 18650's and 17670's (just cause I have them) and both work well. All day vape and some, and I chain vape a lot unless on my motorcycle.
When it is right, the CJB kicks .... and takes names. Nothing compares IMO. Great flavor and vapor. Better then anything I have HV or otherwise. However, when it's not right, it becomes very frustrating, and different types of smoke juice is the big variable.
Enjoy!
Then I ran some straight PG Flu Cured for a bit. The taste was unbearable... unless I dripped it, vaped, repeat. Then it was awesome!!! If I used the bottle for bottom feeding, I would get chemical taste. The big thing is different juice in the CJB makes a huge difference in it's performance and in the taste. YMMV because of this!
I also have given the atty two vodka bathes since owning it. One to get menthol lingering out from ZERO and second to get the atty clean to change flavors.
I have ran AW 18650's and 17670's (just cause I have them) and both work well. All day vape and some, and I chain vape a lot unless on my motorcycle.
When it is right, the CJB kicks .... and takes names. Nothing compares IMO. Great flavor and vapor. Better then anything I have HV or otherwise. However, when it's not right, it becomes very frustrating, and different types of smoke juice is the big variable.
Enjoy!
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Thank you for the tip, it seems to really help when its in the upright position. The horizontal or pipe position doesn't seem to need pressing the bottle at all. I'm trying straight VG with it now because that is what Carlos recommended. I will try a PG/VG mix later on, rest assured. For a lot of other third gens that I've tried the 70/30 or 80/20 pg/vg mix seems to be the sweet spot. I'd like to think of myself as an 'enthusiast' instead of deluding myself into believing that I'm an 'expert'. If I'm the latter, my pride and ego may stop me from listening to the advice and experience of others. Again, thanks.
Agree with your assessment of the CJB. I would almost call it the ferrari of PV's.
And your observation about a different juice, etc., making a world of difference is entirely on point. I've been playing with a couple of good designs from some very talented modders, and have noticed some frustration with some of them until it was realized that my atty behaved on it differently than theirs or my juice sucked and theirs was excellent. Until this happened, I assumed the problem was their mod, and not my parts or accessories; I would presume that the average consumer would do the same. If someone is going to sell a PV, they would be well advised to either sell parts, juice, and accessories with it that they know to work or post links to the items on their site.
Though I've had mine for a week, I'm presuming that it will improve with further break-in over time. The nice thing about a used CJB is that the prior owner may have done most of the work for you.
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In Horizontal it doesn't seem to need pressing on the bottle at all?! OK. I have not really tried it that way but just a few times. Now I gotta give it a longer test using it in position. I have always used it in the vertical (which seems like a pipe position to me...).
Not hardly at all...it's like the juice is washing into the atty almost of its own, or with the inhalation action.
JollyRogers was right in his 'listen to the sizzle' tip in vaping the CJB vertically.
But I've gotten to the point that the horizontal position is now my default, preferred method of vaping this box. Almost no learning curve, and universally great vape.
And unlike every other atty I've ever used, the CJB one gets better the more I use it. Spectacular throat hit; more like 'mugger punching you in the throat and leaving you to die in an alley' throat hit.
There's another bottom fed juice mod that I'm playing with right now, the reo wooden box mod by ecf's redeyedancer. It's a toss up between vaping the reo with an 801 and pg versus the CJB with vg. The former has denser vape and intense flavor, but the latter has that incredible TH...
But I've gotten to the point that the horizontal position is now my default, preferred method of vaping this box. Almost no learning curve, and universally great vape.
And unlike every other atty I've ever used, the CJB one gets better the more I use it. Spectacular throat hit; more like 'mugger punching you in the throat and leaving you to die in an alley' throat hit.
There's another bottom fed juice mod that I'm playing with right now, the reo wooden box mod by ecf's redeyedancer. It's a toss up between vaping the reo with an 801 and pg versus the CJB with vg. The former has denser vape and intense flavor, but the latter has that incredible TH...
Much like I suspected, the CJB is actually improving with repeated use. 
Washed last remnants of chocolate VG out of the bottle with atty crud, refilled halfway with low nic PG and some VG for thickening.
Didn't quite get the mixture right as it was still too thin. As I was running late, I figured to h-e-double hockey sticks with science, and filled the bottle the rest of the way with my thick coconut VG. Yeah, it sounds gross, but as it turns out it's not a bad combo.
My previous experience with the CJB, and what I've read from other people, tells me that filling the bottle over halfway is a bad idea, and will almost guarantee flooding.
Not only has this not happened, the CJB is now blowing thicker clouds of vape in the vertical position. This thing doesn't have to be pumped hardly at all when I vape using a long hard inhale in either position (don't try this in a library). The slightest, quickest press of the bottle (no lid yet) gives me quite a few vapes without having to repeat.
While I normally consider the CJB to be a bit of a fragile and temperamental mod, it is hanging tough, while my normally rock solid reo wooden box started acting up on me yesterday.
My gg afs 2.0 may be arriving at the office later this morning (fingers crossed), so my ggts may get to come out of the drawer. I've got what promises to be an ... kickin' day in two courtrooms this afternoon, so hopefully this will be a simple device to use once it's set up.
Washed last remnants of chocolate VG out of the bottle with atty crud, refilled halfway with low nic PG and some VG for thickening.
Didn't quite get the mixture right as it was still too thin. As I was running late, I figured to h-e-double hockey sticks with science, and filled the bottle the rest of the way with my thick coconut VG. Yeah, it sounds gross, but as it turns out it's not a bad combo.
My previous experience with the CJB, and what I've read from other people, tells me that filling the bottle over halfway is a bad idea, and will almost guarantee flooding.
Not only has this not happened, the CJB is now blowing thicker clouds of vape in the vertical position. This thing doesn't have to be pumped hardly at all when I vape using a long hard inhale in either position (don't try this in a library). The slightest, quickest press of the bottle (no lid yet) gives me quite a few vapes without having to repeat.
While I normally consider the CJB to be a bit of a fragile and temperamental mod, it is hanging tough, while my normally rock solid reo wooden box started acting up on me yesterday.
My gg afs 2.0 may be arriving at the office later this morning (fingers crossed), so my ggts may get to come out of the drawer. I've got what promises to be an ... kickin' day in two courtrooms this afternoon, so hopefully this will be a simple device to use once it's set up.
Does anyone besides me feel like they were totally ripped off??
I could eat paper and CRAP a better mod!!!( Hell I HAVE!!)
Just got my JB back today and it
A:Won't hold the battery in
B: Vapes like I'm using AA batteries instead of these 18650s
C: Leaks like a seive from every hole in it's little weasle body!!
Other than that it's a mediocre smoke at best.
Will not be recommending any more Mods from Carlos n Co.
Just my 2 cents worth
I could eat paper and CRAP a better mod!!!( Hell I HAVE!!)
Just got my JB back today and it
A:Won't hold the battery in
B: Vapes like I'm using AA batteries instead of these 18650s
C: Leaks like a seive from every hole in it's little weasle body!!
Other than that it's a mediocre smoke at best.
Will not be recommending any more Mods from Carlos n Co.
Just my 2 cents worth
The following is a synopsis of Carlos Aguiar's response to my opinion. I submit this for your purousal...
from me on 5/8/10
> From: me
> To: caguiar47@hotmail.com
> Subject: JB REPAIR
> Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 23:28:53 -0500
>
> Carlos;
> Just checking progress on JB I sent back on the 26th. Shows delivery your
> location on the 28th. Was order #468. Whats the status?
>
> R Bonie
HIS Response 5/10
I will be shipping it back out to you on Wed.
Carlos
Recieved device 5/17
Sent this to CA
"Got it back.... Wish I hadn't. This thing is a piece of #$%^ "
Recieved this
"Too bad you feel that way because it was working fine for me when I had it here.
Carlos"
I replied with some ref to a body part of mine
His reply:
that's your opion and I have many others that DO disagree with you. It's a shame you do not have the intelligence to try to fix a problem instead of just venting your anger.
MINE:
For $90.00 investment I have to "FIX" this thing???!!!I purchased this device on the strength of your rep and the advise of others who's opinions I respected. I expected the product to be as purported. It is absolutely not that. I waited an exorbinate amount of time fairly patiently, (for me anyway).What I received was a shoddy attempt at making a mod.Un abashed I DID send it back to you for repairs. What I end up with is WORSE than it was originally and you now malign my intelligence and make this my fault. You need to get out of the business.
I quit! Going back to analogs
from me on 5/8/10
> From: me
> To: caguiar47@hotmail.com
> Subject: JB REPAIR
> Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 23:28:53 -0500
>
> Carlos;
> Just checking progress on JB I sent back on the 26th. Shows delivery your
> location on the 28th. Was order #468. Whats the status?
>
> R Bonie
HIS Response 5/10
I will be shipping it back out to you on Wed.
Carlos
Recieved device 5/17
Sent this to CA
"Got it back.... Wish I hadn't. This thing is a piece of #$%^ "
Recieved this
"Too bad you feel that way because it was working fine for me when I had it here.
Carlos"
I replied with some ref to a body part of mine
His reply:
that's your opion and I have many others that DO disagree with you. It's a shame you do not have the intelligence to try to fix a problem instead of just venting your anger.
MINE:
For $90.00 investment I have to "FIX" this thing???!!!I purchased this device on the strength of your rep and the advise of others who's opinions I respected. I expected the product to be as purported. It is absolutely not that. I waited an exorbinate amount of time fairly patiently, (for me anyway).What I received was a shoddy attempt at making a mod.Un abashed I DID send it back to you for repairs. What I end up with is WORSE than it was originally and you now malign my intelligence and make this my fault. You need to get out of the business.
I quit! Going back to analogs
If I got a e-mail like that from you I would not give you a warm response either. It's obvious that your an educated person with a large vocabulary but you got a long ways to go on people skills. The way you posted this obviously shows that you did not put everything that was said between you two but just the things, you thought, would make him look bad. IMO it did the complete opposite. You must be ex-military like my dad, alway barking orders and throwing a fit when thing did not go his way.
Maybe you should go back to analogs like you said.
I have this mod and it's junk. Don't waste your money people. There is MUCH better out there.
Being retired military, and having two sons and a daughter-in-law serving for our country, I personally resent your comment. I believe that was a bad analogy and I think it brought bad light on your communication skills when trying to comment on someone else's.
I like my juicebox. If the poster is not happy with it and can't get it fixed by the builder, maybe someone with the skills could help him out. I would be willing. Does the atty work OK when the battery does stay in? Everything else is an easy fix.
JollyRogers... my appologies it was never my intention to insult anyone serving our country and I agree that I also like my CJB and I have since ordered another one.
Saveyourpaper... it's obvious that you do not know how to use it or have not tried to get it repaired if it's not working typical reply when something is not understood
Saveyourpaper... it's obvious that you do not know how to use it or have not tried to get it repaired if it's not working typical reply when something is not understood
@Justwonderin: No problem, apology accepted, I understood what you meant, just we are not all like that... I have a long story about someone that actually verbally attacked me using that same analogy, but another time
Does anyone besides me feel like they were totally ripped off??
I could eat paper and CRAP a better mod!!!( Hell I HAVE!!)
Just got my JB back today and it
A:Won't hold the battery in
What kind of battery are you using? 18650 batteries are not all built the same, and may vary from batt to batt. My AW 18650 and 17670's both work well in it. Could you stretch the negative spring to make it a little tighter?
B: Vapes like I'm using AA batteries instead of these 18650s
Sounds like you are actually flooding it. Have you tried blowing it down to get rid of the flooding. Then try dripping 2 drops from the top and vaping. What's it like now? If it is good, then you are in fact flooding it. If it's running dry, the vaper production will be off also, but the atty will get hot...
C: Leaks like a seive from every hole in it's little weasle body!!
Is it leaking where the wires go into the atty, around the bottle top, or out the little hole that allows air to flow through the atty?Knowing those answers will help diagnose the cause.
Other than that it's a mediocre smoke at best.
Will not be recommending any more Mods from Carlos n Co.
Being a former Army Reserve officer, I feel compelled to give you an a$$chewing.
But I'm going to wait until the weekend to do it.
Or maybe for two weeks this summer. Either way.
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