Deeming Regulations Are In Effect
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I agree about the slow death. If they shut everything down tomorrow there could be a lot of noise. A little at a time they get a series of ripples instead of one big wave of protest. Slowly squeeze out the high street shops and online vendors. Reduce the number of juice suppliers. Slow down the flow of new hardware. Use the States to increase prices through taxation, and to limit availability. All been going on for a while. Meanwhile increase the market share of the BT products so they are ready to take up the slack. When they finally drop the hammer there's not much left anyway. It ends with a whimper instead of a bang.
It won't actually end, but that's another story.
All BS aside,
Heres what you need to do to be prepared:
1.Learn to DIY your ejuice.
Its not hard. If you can mix a drink, you can mix ejuice.
There's a great forum here to get you started.
2.Stock up on nic base. You can spend a small amount now and buy 10 years worth of nic base. Im set for about 20 years.
The gear will be available online.
The rest of the world still vapes.
The juice is the key.
Good advice, badninja, thank you. I'll concentrate on the nic then! I'm in my third week of doing DIY juice and I love it!
PS how many bottles is 20 years worth of nic? And where do u buy yours? I've bought mine through wizard and nic river so far
I'm at 18 mgs so I'll need more! Maybe it's time to decrease but I'm only at the 6 month mark of being analog free
For flavors, I use the flavor apprentice, buy bulk of what you use most. Saves a lot of money.
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I'm at about 8-9 months (I've lost count lol) and I am down to 6mg from 12mg.
Because I mix my own liquid, I have been able to finely control the amount of nicotine in my liquid.
I stepped down roughly 1mg per month, and it was so gradual I didn't really notice much.
I guess I vaped a little more for the first week or so after each step down, but it soon leveled out without any conscious effort on my part.
Had I found that the lower strength wasn't hitting the spot, I could have just switched back up again, no need to go back to cigarettes.
This is another huge advantage I see to mixing your own liquid - control.
A nice side effect of reducing my intake to half of what it formerly was, is that I have doubled the amount of time my stash of nicotine will last
Even if you aren't particularly interested in mixing your own liquid, it might still be a good idea to buy a liter of 100mg/ml and put it in your freezer.
It's only around $50 if you shop around, and if things don't turn out well with the fda, you can spend an hour or two online and teach yourself to mix liquid.
One day, you may be VERY glad you spent that $50 on some 'insurance'.
I'm at about 8-9 months (I've lost count lol) and I am down to 6mg from 12mg.
Because I mix my own liquid, I have been able to finely control the amount of nicotine in my liquid.
I stepped down roughly 1mg per month, and it was so gradual I didn't really notice much.
I guess I vaped a little more for the first week or so after each step down, but it soon leveled out without any conscious effort on my part.
Had I found that the lower strength wasn't hitting the spot, I could have just switched back up again, no need to go back to cigarettes.
This is another huge advantage I see to mixing your own liquid - control.
A nice side effect of reducing my intake to half of what it formerly was, is that I have doubled the amount of time my stash of nicotine will last
Even if you aren't particularly interested in mixing your own liquid, it might still be a good idea to buy a liter of 100mg/ml and put it in your freezer.
It's only around $50 if you shop around, and if things don't turn out well with the fda, you can spend an hour or two online and teach yourself to mix liquid.
One day, you may be VERY glad you spent that $50 on some 'insurance'.
Smart to decrease so gradually. I'm definitely stocking up on nic. Because I've been enjoying doing DIY so much, so no matter what happens I will use it
I have tried to drop below 12mg/ml but I've noticed I get headaches and not in the best mood when I do. I bought a bit of 9mg/ml recently to try and slowly drop the amount of nicotine I'm using.
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I'm going to disagree ever so slightly with this.
I think it is important to learn to mix your own liquid, but it's not absolutely necessary to do so in order to be prepared.
Many people don't want to bother with mixing liquid, but that would change pretty fast if manufactured liquid became unavailable or extremely expensive.
The only really important thing that you have to do RIGHT NOW is buy some nicotine and stash it in your freezer.
If the time comes that you need to use it, you'll be only too willing to learn how to mix it
I'm going to disagree ever so slightly with this.
I think it is important to learn to mix your own liquid, but it's not absolutely necessary to do so in order to be prepared.
Many people don't want to bother with mixing liquid, but that would change pretty fast if manufactured liquid became unavailable or extremely expensive.
The only really important thing that you have to do RIGHT NOW is buy some nicotine and stash it in your freezer.
If the time comes that you need to use it, you'll be only too willing to learn how to mix it
Disagree all you want, the statement is accurate.
The one thing the FDA does have full authority to regulate at any moment is nic base. That is their specific area of authority.
If they do, game over.
Your mod just became a fancy flashlight.
Dont be complacent if you are serious about stocking up.
Mixing isnt a bother, it's smart vaping.
I make better quality juice than anything available, for about 3-4 cents a ml.
It takes more time and effort to mix a martini than 16oz of juice.
Anyone that thinks thats too much trouble, probably wont bother stocking up anyway.
I think you misunderstood me a little - what I meant was that someone who wants to be prepared doesn't need to learn how to mix liquid right now, it can wait.
You don't need to know how to mix juice before you buy nicotine, the important thing is to get some nicotine in your freezer before it's too late.
Get the nicotine now, worry about learning to mix it later.
Sorry to go a little off topic, but I'm not able to use my freezer for nic. If I keep it in a dark environment will it stay fresh or must I invest in another freezer?
Heat, air and light cause the nicotine to break down.
The cooler and darker the place, the better.
A brown glass bottle in the freezer is ideal, but if you can't freeze it, at least keep it as cool and dark as possible, and make sure it's in glass.
I don't bother freezing my bulk liquid (I make a few months worth at a time) and it lasts ok in a clear plastic bottle in a closet.
Just do your best to store it as cool as possible, and transfer it to a freezer in future if your situation changes.
The cooler and darker the place, the better.
A brown glass bottle in the freezer is ideal, but if you can't freeze it, at least keep it as cool and dark as possible, and make sure it's in glass.
I don't bother freezing my bulk liquid (I make a few months worth at a time) and it lasts ok in a clear plastic bottle in a closet.
Just do your best to store it as cool as possible, and transfer it to a freezer in future if your situation changes.
Waiting until the eleventh hour to learn something so very simple and so very crucial is the exact opposite of preparedness.
I think the point is that you don't have to be ready to jump whole hog into DIY to stock up on nic base. I've bought nic base and I haven't done any DIY yet. I have what I'll need, other than flavors, and I'm aware I may have to vape some bad mixes before I learn to do it well.
Absolutely, but I think a lot of people are put off buying nicotine because they are intimidated by mixing, or don't see the point when liquid is so readily available.
They may feel different when the nicotine runs out, and regret not having bought any.
There are plenty of tutorials and people willing to help with the mixing side of things when the time comes, but if you didn't buy nicotine, you're out of luck.
Learning to mix now is the ideal situation, but those of us who mix their own liquid have probably stashed their nicotine by now too.
I'm trying to get through to the stragglers.
Buy some nicotine. We will teach you.
Yes, that's exactly what I meant.
About having bad mixes to begin with: try some unflavored. It's really quite pleasant in my opinion, and it will make a good liquid to fall back on as you experiment with flavors.
I vape unflavored almost exclusively nowadays.
You are making it seem far more difficult than it actually is.
People fear what they dont understand.
I see you havent bothered to really see what mixing entails.
Its much easier than you think.
Its litterally like mixing a damn cocktail.
Its not chemistry, its cooking for god's sake!
Its also the single most important element to preparing for vapocalypse.
Much more so than buying batteries or mods which will always be available.
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