Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[BillW50]

We're just headed for this!

 

[Bronze]

After looking at the news I don’t feel like I’m living in reality.

 

[Alexander Mundy]

 

[Alexander Mundy]

Good lord. I suspect the misinformation campaign may have given this a real possibility of getting passed.

Straight out of Anslinger's playbook.

 

[englishmick]

Honestly, I would be Surprised if it Didn't pass the House.

Now the Senate, it it's current form? I dunno? Maybe a 50:50 change of passage. And if it got to Trump's desk, I'd say there is 70+% chance he would sign it.

McConnell is getting ready to introduce a bill to raise the age to 21. Don't know if it includes the other items.

 

[zoiDman]

McConnell is getting ready to introduce a bill to raise the age to 21. Don't know if it includes the other items.

Yeah... That's why I used the words "in it's current form" for Pallone's bill. Because I have also heard that a serious drive for a National 21+ is in the works.

But it is Unclear if it would come via a Watered Down bill like Pallone's? Or if it will come from someone like the Senate Majority Leader? It's Kinda a Race right Now to see who can Save the Children 1st.

There is also that some would Vote for a 21+ Only where some would say it Doesn't do Enough. So it would Fail.

And others would Vote for Pallone's Bill where some would say it Goes Too Far. So it would Fail.

It would be a Bitter Pill. But I would Support 21+ if it would Guarantee that Flavors would be saved.

But getting a Political Guarantee if like trying to Nail Jelly to a Tree. Non-Flavored Jelly that is.

 

[ScottP]

Yeah... That's why I used the words "in it's current form" for Pallone's bill. Because I have also heard that a serious drive for a National 21+ is in the works.

But it is Unclear if it would come via a Watered Down bill like Pallone's? Or if it will come from someone like the Senate Majority Leader? It's Kinda a Race right Now to see who can Save the Children 1st.

There is also that some would Vote for a 21+ Only where some would say it Doesn't do Enough. So it would Fail.

And others would Vote for Pallone's Bill where some would say it Goes Too Far. So it would Fail.

It would be a Bitter Pill. But I would Support 21+ if it would Guarantee that Flavors would be saved.

But getting a Political Guarantee if like trying to Nail Jelly to a Tree. Non-Flavored Jelly that is.

Yeah I would for sure go for a 21+ restriction IF it saved flavors OR at least internet sales. I can always DIY but a ban on all internet sales of nicotine puts the nic base out of most of our reach.

I can nail jelly to a tree no problem, just have to harden it a bit. I see getting a political guarantee more like trying to catch a fart and paint it purple.

 

[zoiDman]

Yeah I would for sure go for a 21+ restriction IF it saved flavors OR at least internet sales. I can always DIY but a ban on all internet sales of nicotine puts the nic base out of most of our reach.

I can nail jelly to a tree no problem, just have to harden it a bit. I see getting a political guarantee more like trying to catch a fart and paint it purple.

The BIG Problem I see is the Underage/ Teen Numbers Presenters are Not going to allow the numbers to go Lower without an Action to imply Causality.

So we are going to get an Action(s). Just what that is Hard to say.

But the way things are Going, I'm Not very Optimistic.

 

[440BB]

Pallone's bill indicates it would take effect two years after passage. No telling what may happen but I'm not rushing to add to the nic stockpile just yet.

I did place a good size fasttech order today though...

 

[CMD-Ky]

Yeah... That's why I used the words "in it's current form" for Pallone's bill. Because I have also heard that a serious drive for a National 21+ is in the works.

But it is Unclear if it would come via a Watered Down bill like Pallone's? Or if it will come from someone like the Senate Majority Leader? It's Kinda a Race right Now to see who can Save the Children 1st.

There is also that some would Vote for a 21+ Only where some would say it Doesn't do Enough. So it would Fail.

And others would Vote for Pallone's Bill where some would say it Goes Too Far. So it would Fail.

It would be a Bitter Pill. But I would Support 21+ if it would Guarantee that Flavors would be saved.

But getting a Political Guarantee if like trying to Nail Jelly to a Tree. Non-Flavored Jelly that is.

But the voting age should be lowered to 16.

 

[MacTechVpr]

But the voting age should be lowered to 16.

Disagree. We already have enough 16-year olds in Congress.

Good luck.

 

[Bronze]

Disagree. We already have enough 16-year olds in Congress.

Good luck.

And that’s giving the benefit of the doubt.

 

[englishmick]

Yeah I would for sure go for a 21+ restriction IF it saved flavors OR at least internet sales. I can always DIY but a ban on all internet sales of nicotine puts the nic base out of most of our reach.

Do you know if the internet sales ban in the House Bill only applies to juice, or juice with nic, or hardware as well?

 

[CMD-Ky]

Disagree. We already have enough 16-year olds in Congress.

Good luck.

I should have included a "sarc" tag.

 

[mikepetro]

Continued Smoking Adds $3.4 Billion Annual Price Tag to Cancer Care

Gee, could some of these companies making billions actually want people to keep smoking, and consequently participate in anti-vaping propaganda?

 

[zoiDman]

A little Overshadowed by yesterdays Events...

McConnell introducing bill to raise age to buy tobacco to 21

 

[DPLongo22]

Continued Smoking Adds $3.4 Billion Annual Price Tag to Cancer Care

Gee, could some of these companies making billions actually want people to keep smoking, and consequently participate in anti-vaping propaganda?

"Impossible".

{sarcasm font disengaged}

 

[Baditude]

We already have enough 16-year olds in Congress.

 

[DPLongo22]

ECF Post of the Yea...
ECF Post of the Decad...
ECF Post of the Centu...

ECF Post of the Forever!

 

[Bronze]

Like, Omigod! Like, America is like 10% away from garbage. Like, Omigod!