Shep Smith with another e-cig bashing today. Reporting that Nebraska is implementing nicotine testing for HS students who participate in extra curricular activities.
Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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Okay, had to look that one up, 'cause it sounds a little crazy. According to NY Times, it's a district in rural NE.
Nebraska School District Will Test Students for Nicotine Over Vaping Worries
But this really surprised me:
"Those students already must agree to be randomly tested for illegal and performance-enhancing drugs before they join extracurricular groups, Mr. Grizzle said. The new policy will add nicotine to those tests, which had already been carried out for about two years."
I had no idea HS students were being subjected to random drug testing to be in the chess club, or whatever.
Nebraska School District Will Test Students for Nicotine Over Vaping Worries
But this really surprised me:
"Those students already must agree to be randomly tested for illegal and performance-enhancing drugs before they join extracurricular groups, Mr. Grizzle said. The new policy will add nicotine to those tests, which had already been carried out for about two years."
I had no idea HS students were being subjected to random drug testing to be in the chess club, or whatever.
Thanks for the correction.
God forbid those politicians and educators had been tested in the 70’s/80’s/90’s when they were in school....
Too many do gooders making decisions these days. They seem to think they know what is best for us and impose their morals on the rest of us. That, and they get on these power trips by getting off telling others what to do. Barney Fife, mother hen, etc...
"The plaintiffs managed to argue that as public health advocacy groups that are likely to be involved in the public comment period of any proposed regulation, then they are entitled to all information on the safety and the efficacy of these products under a declaration of informational injury. Grimm ruled that the public health groups faced injury for not having immediate access to information related to any regulatory action or rulemaking."
The FDA was ordered to regulate e-cigs and vapes by a federal judge | Vaping Post
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It's really hard to be a rotten kid who does well, nowadays. It's unfortunate. We need them. The ones who don't die off tend to eventually realize the error of their ways, and do great things.
I have met a lot of alcoholics in recovery. Provided they don't have wet brain or something, I will say they are pretty smart.
Don't get me wrong I have to Curb my Enthusiasm for antisocial acts every now and then but there are few mistakes I regret (now) in my early youth and boy did I learn some skills. They were necessary.
Also, I don't love or hate agencies, but there should be some rules about them, like operating costs. The SSA's operating costs are 1% of their total income every year. ONE PERCENT. That is impressive, given ALL the things they do, and while they do charge fees for some stuff, they don't for a LOT of stuff.
While it is the most regressive tax known to man, it would also be THE most successful government agency of all time IF the government had not raided its coffers, repeatedly.
There should be some operational cost vs. benefit thing. The FDA does not spend its money well at ALL. I am ALL FOR making sure drugs don't kill you (although the FDA is not so great at that either) but yeah stuff like medicine should be regulated. Just, not the way the FDA is doing it.
I would probably say the same for almost EVERY government agency.
IDK about the seeding issue either, where different parties appoint low level burocrats to later do their bidding. I don't know if it's true, actually although I have heard it theorized. I would say elect them but that would be chaos too.
We need a LARGE agency of PUBLIC CITIZENS to oversee the actions of the agencies.
Anna
I have met a lot of alcoholics in recovery. Provided they don't have wet brain or something, I will say they are pretty smart.
Don't get me wrong I have to Curb my Enthusiasm for antisocial acts every now and then but there are few mistakes I regret (now) in my early youth and boy did I learn some skills. They were necessary.
Also, I don't love or hate agencies, but there should be some rules about them, like operating costs. The SSA's operating costs are 1% of their total income every year. ONE PERCENT. That is impressive, given ALL the things they do, and while they do charge fees for some stuff, they don't for a LOT of stuff.
While it is the most regressive tax known to man, it would also be THE most successful government agency of all time IF the government had not raided its coffers, repeatedly.
There should be some operational cost vs. benefit thing. The FDA does not spend its money well at ALL. I am ALL FOR making sure drugs don't kill you (although the FDA is not so great at that either) but yeah stuff like medicine should be regulated. Just, not the way the FDA is doing it.
I would probably say the same for almost EVERY government agency.
IDK about the seeding issue either, where different parties appoint low level burocrats to later do their bidding. I don't know if it's true, actually although I have heard it theorized. I would say elect them but that would be chaos too.
We need a LARGE agency of PUBLIC CITIZENS to oversee the actions of the agencies.
Anna
True, but not. That's from the New England Journal of Medicine a few months ago. Over a 12 month period, 9.9% of smokers stopped with NRT (gum and or patch), a number which I don't remember exactly that was similar for Chantix, and 22% with an e cig. The majority failed to stop smoking. So twice as much as NRT as that big 95% number appears and therefore technically correct , but as maybe only a quarter of e cig users were able to stop, the headline is misleading (IMO).
As to what happens to BT when the last pack is sold, and if e cigs were regulated into oblivion, I expect they'll do just fine on another crop now becoming increasingly legal for recreational use. They've been waiting to go after that market for decades.
Well that's a pretty sympathetic judge. So they need immediate access to information to be ready for the public comment period that runs, what, 90 days, or else they won't he able to act in the best interests of teenagers who are barred by law from even using this stuff, and can get special snowflake judicial relief. Great system.
Does anyone know if CAASA and the VTA bothered to at least file any briefs in support of the FDA taking careful and considered thought on e cig regulations given the potential public health benefit, while supporting the age restrictions to protect minors? Or did we vapers leave the FDA blowing in the wind alone?
The voters are that large group but each election, the voters abdicate - what is the voting percentage 40% at best. And, parenthetically, I am not sure increasing the voting percentage would help. Anyone ever watch a man (or woman or whatever) interview? Wow, ignorance is our most plentiful commodity and we get a new bumper crop every May or June.
Way back when I was a student, there was a serious discussion of whether trees had standing - books written and law review articles penned. You'd love it.
We have a neighborhood website. A couple dozen subdivisions spread out, few thousand homes. It never fails that there has to be at least one mother hen constantly telling what people should and should not be doing. As if we're all idiots.
A bit like activist Judges. When they do stuff I approve of they are following the Law, when they annoy me they are activist judges. It takes some work to avoid that kind of thinking. More work than most people can be bothered with.
We have a neighborhood website. A couple dozen subdivisions spread out, few thousand homes. It never fails that there has to be at least one mother hen constantly telling what people should and should not be doing. As if we're all idiots.
Ahh, Mr Bronze, your grass is a little long and you know you shouldn't work on your dilapidated autos in our neighborhood.
There hasn't been any rain in awhile. Everyone needs to limit lawn watering.
Our neighborhoods look better if people store their boats at the marina instead of their driveways.
Lots of mailboxes in need of painting. Let's keep the neighborhood looking presentable.
I firmly believe that the only mailboxes that need painting are like, mailboxes that are designed in the tiny shape of the houses of their owners. Unless smashing is an option.
My house lives in a subdivision named Wonderland. It was founded by a dude who had to SELL his plot that was being swallowed by a retirement community which I cannot even IMAGINE but he did. He filed a neighborhood association that said, "We have no dues we have no rules if you are gonna annoy your neighbors talk to them. This neighborhood association cannot be changed, in perpetuity."
it's a really great neighborhood. Depending on where the husband and I buy land, we may have to file such an association. Really cuts down on everyone getting up in everyone's grill.
Anna
My house lives in a subdivision named Wonderland. It was founded by a dude who had to SELL his plot that was being swallowed by a retirement community which I cannot even IMAGINE but he did. He filed a neighborhood association that said, "We have no dues we have no rules if you are gonna annoy your neighbors talk to them. This neighborhood association cannot be changed, in perpetuity."
it's a really great neighborhood. Depending on where the husband and I buy land, we may have to file such an association. Really cuts down on everyone getting up in everyone's grill.
Anna
But they're not waiting anymore. Imperial Brands (Kool, Winston) last year invested in Oxford Cannabinoid Technologies (Snoop Dogg backed). This was about a year ago - I haven't looked, but there are probably others by now, given what's happening across the US with legalization.
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