Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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I too lost my “tobacco stash” including all of my equipment and nic stash just yesterday! The creek near my house rose really fast... it was partly my fault I was cleaning some tanks by the river and took everything I had with me....the creek water rose really fast due to all the rain we just had and snow...it swept everything I had right out of my hands and my stash on the bank of the creek.... all I have to say is Thank goodness For cigarettes!
When is Dicodes going to develop a flashlight head with a 510 connection? We all need flashlights with VV VW and temp control, right?
I would suspect half the people who work at the FDA don't know what it means.
Begs the questions, if the USPS, UPS, and FedEx are not going to be delivering vape products, how in the hell are those products supposed to get to the B&M's? DHL? Carrier pidgeon?
Business to business (B2B) shipments are exempt. It's the only thing that keeps the vape mail ban from being a vape ban.
Not necessarily - does the postal ban exempt vape shops??? - Not yet you say?
Wait, that might be the next step. Vermont has already banned all online sales of vape products to individuals and the state of Washington did this with tobacco products years ago. - If wholesale is exempt today it might not be tomorrow !
This is a hypothetical development:
Outlaw motorcycle gangs are often accused of dealing in drugs - Maybe they want a less controversial item to deal in and help with transportation and delivery???
Hell they might decide to go into the business.
In the new dystopian World 'they' are creating you might have "Hells Angels Vaper Delivery Service'
or how about "Vagos Vapes"
Admit vaping will become exciting like when it was new - As a controlled substance it will be more fun for a lot of people - And you can bet your bippy that this more than anything else will cause teenagers to try vaping - See this is how government works best when it expands the Underworld and then profits on the cost of all the control and policing that their underworld expansion has caused - See they're not stupid after all - Just completely corrupt !!!!!
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In relation to all that's being discussed, what are the thoughts about Build Kits and how it falls within all these regulations and/or restrictions. You know, along the lines of "Assembly required", "Batteries not included". I remember way back in the days that the purchase of Switch blade knifes were illegal to purchase and mail, but you could but kits in the mail and build them yourself. At least that was what I remember.
One online vendor is doing just that. They intend to sell kits of bottles of flavor, pg/vg base, and nic.
It's going to be interesting to see how that works out because they've been my go-to vendor for about 9 years.
I was thinking more along the lines of hardware. Case, switches/buttons,wires, screws, PCB board (for regulated) if required. What would it take to have any of the existing available mods and (with maybe a few modifications) ship the parts for assembly. You know the good old days when that's all that there was.
I wouldn’t mind that at all but I’m guessing a lot of people would be lost and wouldn’t be able to do it. It would have to be plug and play with no soldering.
I wonder how liquid solder would work? I only used it once for splicing wires to close for using heat. Also used liquid tape (good stuff) to seal.
Just thinking out loud for possibilities.
A vape mod is deemed "tobacco product". I doesn't matter if it ships disassembled. It's still a vape mod and sold as a vape mod.
Same goes with a DIY liquid kit. The nicotine is a tobacco product. The PG, VG and flavor being in a kit with that tobacco product for use as a tobacco product makes the whole kit a tobacco product.
These loopholes may work for knives, but the government takes tobacco seriously because it's a money-maker for them.
However I can maybe see selling a mechanical vape mod fully assembled, sold with a 510 flashlight head and marketed as a flashlight, flying under the radar. The only issue I see there is the 510 connection. Not sure if that would be considered "tobacco" but with the flashlight head being 510 threaded, fitting and working on the mod, and marketed as a flashlight (which would be functional), it would be hard to prove that it's a vape mod. This would be a safer and more realistic idea IMHO.
Same goes with a DIY liquid kit. The nicotine is a tobacco product. The PG, VG and flavor being in a kit with that tobacco product for use as a tobacco product makes the whole kit a tobacco product.
These loopholes may work for knives, but the government takes tobacco seriously because it's a money-maker for them.
However I can maybe see selling a mechanical vape mod fully assembled, sold with a 510 flashlight head and marketed as a flashlight, flying under the radar. The only issue I see there is the 510 connection. Not sure if that would be considered "tobacco" but with the flashlight head being 510 threaded, fitting and working on the mod, and marketed as a flashlight (which would be functional), it would be hard to prove that it's a vape mod. This would be a safer and more realistic idea IMHO.
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