Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

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Right. I' so disheartened...

That's to be expected. All those organizations benefit from cigarettes. What is likely next, is a 'letter' from the "usual suspects" to the Senate Appropriations Committee to not include the amendment.

Some of the "usual suspects" sit on the committee - Durbin, Feinstein, Reed, Merkley.

We need as many organizations and individuals writing to the Senate Appropriations Committee with our view. And some that address directly those views of those miserable organizations, perhaps with a note as to how they benefit from people continuing to smoke cigarettes.
 

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And here's the first attempt to remove it from the Appropriations bill--just posted by our friend @crxess in another thread. I give up.

http://www.cadca.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/policy/lettertosenateappropriations.pdf

"We are writing to express our strong opposition to two provisions in the House Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies appropriations bill for Fiscal Year 2017 that would significantly weaken the Food and Drug Administration’s authority over several tobacco products including e-cigarettes and cigars."
God help us.
 

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@Katya i couldn't bring myself to like your post #3054. The content is
too depressing.
However thanks for posting it.:)
Mike

I understand. It's so depressing. And the worst part of it is that they don't even know what the :censored: they are signing. It's all knee-jerk, party-line, save-the-children crap. :cry: Some bureaucrat probably called another bureaucrat and asked if they could add their signature to a letter that will protect America's youth. :facepalm:
 
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I think my heart just fell out onto the floor. What a list of backers!
Inside the beltway these are generally known as the usual list of suspects.
It's understood what these organizations stand for and why they stand
that way. The 64 dollar question is can they get their way this time.
Mike
 

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That's to be expected. All those organizations benefit from cigarettes. What is likely next, is a 'letter' from the "usual suspects" to the Senate Appropriations Committee to not include the amendment.

We need as many organizations and individuals writing to the Senate Appropriations Committee with our view. And some that address directly those views of those miserable organizations, perhaps with a note as to how they benefit from people continuing to smoke cigarettes.
Kent, I agree. Unfortunately, the signatories to this are a lot of respected (not by me) organizations with heavy lobbyist arms.

That's what is so bad about this fight, we're going against organizations that are typically respected among the population (e.g. American Cancer Society) as well as in government. Most Americans do not smoke or vape, so they don't see it from our perspective.

What's worse is, when I tell non-vapers how corrupt the ACS is and how they shouldn't be supported, I sound like a conspiracy kooky-bird.
 

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Right. I' so disheartened...

I think my heart just fell out onto the floor. What a list of backers!
Stop! Every amendment has a list of objectors added to it. The organizations you see on there exist because of cigarettes. So naturally they will be against vaping.
 

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Inside the beltway these are generally known as the usual list of suspects.
It's understood what these organizations stand for and why they stand
that way. The 64 dollar question is can they get their way this time.
Mike
In other words, THEIR sheeple.
This is all just so WRONG!!

...wonder if it's too late to repeal The Declaration of Independence??
 
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And here's the first attempt to remove it from the Appropriations bill--just posted by our friend @crxess in another thread. I give up.

http://www.cadca.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/policy/lettertosenateappropriations.pdf

"We are writing to express our strong opposition to two provisions in the House Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies appropriations bill for Fiscal Year 2017 that would significantly weaken the Food and Drug Administration’s authority over several tobacco products including e-cigarettes and cigars."


Welp, looks like it's time for everyone to contact their senators! *grumble, grumble* Lying sacks of... *grumble, grumble* Money grubbing... *grumble, grumble*
 

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I understand. It's so depressing. And the worst part of it is that they don't even know what the :censored: they are signing. It's all knee-jerk, party-line, save-the-children crap. :cry: Some bureaucrat called another bureaucrat and asked if they could add their signature to a letter that will protect America's youth. :facepalm:
I almost can't wait until the CDC youth smoking report comes out after these idiots have destroyed the vaping industry, showing that cigarette use among youth is up 30%+ to pre-2013 levels.

Yep, that's saving the children, all right.
 

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