Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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Well yeah. Some of us predicted this would eventually happen as soon as the Deeming was proposed, back in 2014.
However, the author could have done a bit more diligent research.
No, actually, they didn't. Mango and Cucumber flavors were not available at juul's launch. I don't remember exactly when those flavors were introduced, but I seem to recall it was at least a year later.
Quite a long time ago, when "registration" became mandatory, I predicted some companies would regret complying. It's pretty much impossible to "fly under the radar" once you've registered as a manufacturer.
That's good news. It was my favorite nic.
I wonder though. Their email said they were able to get sorted out with the regs and taxes in all the States, plus mailing regs. Did they apply under PMTA, did they figure out they didn't need to for straight nic? If they went through PMTA I never heard about it. If they didn't apply wouldn't they be in violation at this point? They are a pretty smart outfit in my opinion. Doesn't seem like they would go through all the work of getting set up with the State regs and mail rules and so forth if they were at risk of being shut down by the Feds.
They were never out of retail (well only for maybe a month back in summer 2021). That email they sent out was just a marketing gimmick. They probably realized that their price hike wasn't fooling anyone so now they lowered their price again and all of a sudden they're "back in business". They stole the tactic from Ashley Furniture lol.
I'm pretty cynical at times but why go through a protected mark-down cycle to then have to attempt to recover discarded margins? Think instead they drank the Koolaid for a while like so many of us. I'll optimistically wager they now see a crack in the matrix instead. Either way, availability is better than nuttin.
Good luck all.
Good luck all.
I’m glad I stocked up when I did. I’d hate to pay the price they are asking now. Actually I’d probably just buy elsewhere before I paid that much.
For someone who's new or late to stocking up, I'm glad there are still nic options available here in the states. That said, the Nude Nicotine pricing makes my stockpile look pretty damn nice and cheap!
The last liter of 100 mg/ml that I added to my stash cost me $40 (Black Thursday My Freedom Smokes sale, 4 or 5 years ago) and $5.21 in shipping, by FedEx.
Eggs-actly.
"This nicotine product is intended for use in oral/dermal nootropic, laboratory research, & nicotine replacement therapy (NRT) formulations ONLY. This includes, but is not limited to: gum, lozenges, transdermal patches, oral sprays, inhalers. This product is NOT intended for use in electronic cigarettes, vaporizers or any vaping application."
Is anyone at all surprised at this?
I mean, Scott Gotlieb got himself a cushy, first-class seat on Pfizer's board...
Eggs-actly.
"This nicotine product is intended for use in oral/dermal nootropic, laboratory research, & nicotine replacement therapy (NRT) formulations ONLY. This includes, but is not limited to: gum, lozenges, transdermal patches, oral sprays, inhalers. This product is NOT intended for use in electronic cigarettes, vaporizers or any vaping application."
It's still good news for us, if they really have found a legal way around the regulations.
I don't know how many DIYers are around now. There aren't likely to be many new customers for their product with the hardware that uses it likely going away. Short term some existing vapers who currently buy ready mixed juice will move over to DIY.
Mind you the black market will probably explode. If they can pick up the dark side mixers their future could be rosy.
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