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Keepcalmvapeon

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Very admirable what you've been able to do advocating for your healthcare. I'm trying to think how we could do similar kind of advocacy. I doubt there are many of us, who by appearance it would be obvious that we need vaping, but I understand your point about face to face meeting is larger than just that.

I really appreciate your message.
I hope no one thought it as an idiotic the remark, it was embarrassing to tell what part of my life has been like.
My intention was that I wish we could all find a way to be seen. I brought up my personal experience because it took being face to face in my condition to get results. I hate to admit that if (myself at a personal level), I couldn't Vape to cope with the outcome of my situation and quit smoking cigs and they took it away (vaping), that I would smoke again.
I worked for attorneys (family/traffic, foreclosure and bankruptcy), personally seeing how courts just brush things under the carpet. Much like insurance and the drug companies/manufacturers who are making all these meds that are just barely tested then thrown out to people to use, you have no idea how many I'm allergic to...But the FDA approved all of them? I don't matter.
I just got so sick of governmental politics and how they run all of us. I had to live it and work in it and I wish sometimes that I wasn't aware of how we're not as free as we thought. The doctors, hospitals, lawyers etc., are all just ran by government. The only thing it's about is how much profit they make off of us! I would never wish my health on another, but if just a few of them people judging vaping right now lived in someone's shoes like mine... Trust me they'd be saying hey maybe we should reanalyze the facts. Look how many people are quitting. See this woman/man started at 24 mg.... She/He is down to 3&0 mg... She/He was smoking 2 packs a day, there's gotta be more. Because it helped me too!
What I know and all the rest of us do, is that they were just sitting back like vultures waiting for the perfect time to come in and strike...all for the love of money.
Can anyone say we need to Vape. I really don't know.
I know I do... Otherwise no matter what doctors told me I couldn't quit the cigarette smoking, not even the chantix got me to quit! That's honest. And my health and staying out of a wheelchair is greatly affected by having the option to Vape instead of smoke.
Really what it boils down to is that I got so upset watching people with families having their courthouse paperwork shuffelled around, lost and misplaced. Same with hospitals and all that political garbage that they put people through.
My life has let me see and experience things that makes me or anyone else who's seen some of this crud, well you'd want to stand up and protect everyone from the true unjustice that goes on behind those closed doors!

That's why I said I wished they had to SEE US.
Sure have the companies provide you with lists of every ingredient and or part involved with vaping. But, We are the consumers now I feel that they not only need what they want. But that in this whole thing, there's another missing piece all facts should be reviewed. I am one of those facts. How did it change our lives? I feel proud to say how long I smoked and that vaping was what got me to quit... That was something I never thought I was strong enough to do. I'm so glad vaping was an option, thank goodness it was. That's my story to the panel of judges. So it would be nice to be seen and heard so I never had to smoke another cancer stick. all I WISH I could do is finally say how I feel...
Excuse me please, would you give me a chance to tell you how vaping helped my life health and self esteem, please. I'd love to have a chance to look them in the eyes face to face because without that interaction of looking people face to face, eye to eye they don't know the human side to all of this. It's just paperwork. Their trained not to get involved or care about people, because they'd have doubts, they might have to look at how their doing this in a different light. We/people take this from the lists of the details they are demanding. Into to success stories. Can you imagine a world without poison filled cigarettes? I know big tobacco wins:( But just maybe one day they won't, anything is possible!! I just guess that having seen what I have, makes me want to let people know if you really believe in something that can make a difference in just 1 life. Stand up and be seen in the eyes. A persons eyes are a gateway to their heart. We could be seen. If they wanted that detailed list of facts blah blah, I just think we are a bigger part of a missing link of details ( the success stories), they just aren't aware of it yet!
 

KODIAK (TM)

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Can anyone say we need to Vape. I really don't know.
I know I do...
I could certainly quit and so could you. It's only vaping and more accurately, only nicotine.

It's the age-old issue for me. (And many here as well), Once again I have to find a way to contend with an intrusive government spurred on by an intrusive society that insists my personal and private choices in life be limited to theirs.
 

The Ocelot

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my goats are lawn mowers.

My goats are weed eaters. I lost one over the winter and was considering rehoming the one I had left, until I realized that without him I would have to keep the back clear by myself. Uh, no. They don't like to be alone, so today I got him a friend.
 

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