Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[Train2]

Never heard of them...
But I look forward to seeing "Unicorn Poop" in official court transcripts.

Another shot fired against the FDA: Lost Art Liquids, LLC Files Lawsuit Against FDA

 

[wiredlove]

There is some merit to that. On the other hand, I would be reluctant to encourage a non-smoker to take up vaping. To be honest, I would rather not vape either. The thought of not having a crutch would be something I'd like to try if I thought I could do it.

I'll send you my address if you want to send all your vape supplies to a good and loving home.

 

[Coldrake]

I Got 'Owl' - What Bird Are You?

Eagle

 

[Bronze]

I'll send you my address if you want to send all your vape supplies to a good and loving home.

I have some pretty good vape supplies too.

 

[Lessifer]

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My old apartment complex had a sign. Every one of the buildings I've worked in for as far back as I can remember has had a sign. Most restaurants have them. Half the products in any box store have them. I'm pretty sure that the playground my kid plays at, in one of the nicer neighborhoods in this city, should have one, because I think sawdust is on the list.

 

[Lessifer]

BTW I guess I'm a Green Owl

 

[Bob Chill]

There is some merit to that. On the other hand, I would be reluctant to encourage a non-smoker to take up vaping. To be honest, I would rather not vape either. The thought of not having a crutch would be something I'd like to try if I thought I could do it.

Agreed. I wouldn't encourage anyone to ingest anything recreationally. It's a form of peer pressure. But I strongly believe that anyone should have the free choice available to them.

I don't think a never smoker would share the same crutch as us ex-smoker do. We went down a serious rabbit hole. It's part product and part genetics. But I have a hunch that if I was able to vape in my teens instead of smoke that the grip would be equal to tweezers and not a titanium vice grip.

I think that the simple fact of NRT abuse among young people is nonexistent supports that in some ways. We'll know a lot more over the coming years.

I'd be interested to talk to a teen nic vaper and discuss the effects of the nicotine when they first tried it. Cigs went right to my head. Instantly dizzy and nauseous if I smoked them too fast. I haven't seen many reports of that but have no real data to assume anything. We had to train our bodies to keep increasing nic consumption. My vaping journey has been the opposite with decreasing consumption by default. It's pretty counter-intuitive when you think about it.

 

[mgmrick]

There is the issue.... Now when are you going to quit that ecig thing..

I have no desire to quit... and non smokers and non vapors don't understand that

 

[Robino1]

My old apartment complex had a sign. Every one of the buildings I've worked in for as far back as I can remember has had a sign. Most restaurants have them. Half the products in any box store have them. I'm pretty sure that the playground my kid plays at, in one of the nicer neighborhoods in this city, should have one, because I think sawdust is on the list.

~Sign, sign, everywhere a sign~~


Do they not realize that being bombarded with the same message makes that message invisible after a while?

I won't say anything about the intelligence level of your state just cuz I think there are a LOT of very intelligent people that are members on ECF, yourself included. But o.m.g. I have no words.

 

[Bronze]

Agreed. I wouldn't encourage anyone to ingest anything recreationally. It's a form of peer pressure. But I strongly believe that anyone should have the free choice available to them.

I don't think a never smoker would share the same crutch as us ex-smoker do. We went down a serious rabbit hole. It's part product and part genetics. But I have a hunch that if I was able to vape in my teens instead of smoke that the grip would be equal to tweezers and not a titanium vice grip.

I think that the simple fact of NRT abuse among young people is nonexistent supports that in some ways. We'll know a lot more over the coming years.

I'd be interested to talk to a teen nic vaper and discuss the effects of the nicotine when they first tried it. Cigs went right to my head. Instantly dizzy and nauseous if I smoked them too fast. I haven't seen many reports of that but have no real data to assume anything. We had to train our bodies to keep increasing nic consumption. My vaping journey has been the opposite with decreasing consumption by default. It's pretty counter-intuitive when you think about it.

There is the issue.... Now when are you going to quit that ecig thing..

I have no desire to quit... and non smokers and non vapors don't understand that

Me either.

 

[zoiDman]

Another shot fired against the FDA: Lost Art Liquids, LLC Files Lawsuit Against FDA

If you happen to see a Copy of the Complaint, Please post a Link if you can.

TY.

 

[StormFinch]

Completely Sad and a perfect example of.............To damn many signs!!!

And let me guess, if you pull over to the side of the road to read it, you'll be ticketed.

Never heard of them...
But I look forward to seeing "Unicorn Poop" in official court transcripts.

I hadn't either, then I found their line and

Just my opinion, but I'd be too embarrassed bringing up those names in court to sue anyone.

My old apartment complex had a sign. Every one of the buildings I've worked in for as far back as I can remember has had a sign. Most restaurants have them. Half the products in any box store have them. I'm pretty sure that the playground my kid plays at, in one of the nicer neighborhoods in this city, should have one, because I think sawdust is on the list.

 

[Robino1]

If you happen to see a Copy of the Complaint, Please post a Link if you can.

TY.

I happened to see it on Phil's Taste your juice page. Followed the link to the page that I posted.

If I do happen to run across the Complaint, I will definitely give the heads up

 

[coldgin96]

I play video games better with nicotine. Then again, how would I know the difference? Lol

 

[Lessifer]

~Sign, sign, everywhere a sign~~


Do they not realize that being bombarded with the same message makes that message invisible after a while?

I won't say anything about the intelligence level of your state just cuz I think there are a LOT of very intelligent people that are members on ECF, yourself included. But o.m.g. I have no words.

Yeah, I know I've brought up that same effect before. Ubiquitous becomes invisible. I'm not against warning labels, but they have to be used judiciously or they do no good.

Prop 65 is a perfect example of good intentions being corrupted. The idea behind it is sound, but the execution has been ridiculous as the regulation is not entirely science based. It's become a vehicle for attorneys and whistleblowers to profit, much like ADA compliance suits.

 

[LoriP1702]

My old apartment complex had a sign. Every one of the buildings I've worked in for as far back as I can remember has had a sign. Most restaurants have them. Half the products in any box store have them. I'm pretty sure that the playground my kid plays at, in one of the nicer neighborhoods in this city, should have one, because I think sawdust is on the list.

We were there in Feb., I saw those signs everywhere. Like you said, in almost every restaurant.

 

[LoriP1702]

...loved the photo enforced tolls too, no physical toll booth so you could actually pay.
$3.50 for the toll, $15.00 for the third party that sends the bill.

 

[Robino1]

...loved the photo enforced tolls too, no physical toll booth so you could actually pay.
$3.50 for the toll, $15.00 for the third party that sends the bill.

We have a few of those here in Florida too. We were quite surprised when we got a bill in the mail

We happened to be driving the MIL's car so we didn't have our Sunpass with us. Oh boy

 

[LoriP1702]

We have a few of those here in Florida too. We were quite surprised when we got a bill in the mail

We happened to be driving the MIL's car so we didn't have our Sunpass with us. Oh boy

We got one there too. But we had purposely taken the expressway around Orlando, we knew there would be one.

 

[mcol]

Libertarian and then owl.