Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

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What about gifts? Anyway, I would order on my cc if Katya asked me to. :)

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Another mod? How many do you have? Geesh, just get a ProVari. :pervy:

I do have a ProVari.
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Now let's just pray that ProVape was just venting and is not really planning on going out of business. If they are serious, all those peeps who "just got a ProVari" are not any better off than everybody else, I'm afraid.
 

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I do have a ProVari.
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Now let's just pray that ProVape was just venting and is not really planning on going out of business. If they are serious, all those peeps who "just got a ProVari" are not any better off than everybody else, I'm afraid.
Hopefully they stick around at least until it's apparent that they'll have to shut down. I can understand not wanting to sink money into a PMTA though.

By most accounts a provari 2.5 is the most durable pv, other than a mech, and from what I've seen on the forums failures are rare. I suggest everyone who can, learn mech safety and get a decent one. Just in case. I'd much rather people buy a device than have a bunch of desperate people building their own puck mods.
 

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Hopefully they stick around at least until it's apparent that they'll have to shut down. I can understand not wanting to sink money into a PMTA though.

By most accounts a provari 2.5 is the most durable pv, other than a mech, and from what I've seen on the forums failures are rare. I suggest everyone who can, learn mech safety and get a decent one. Just in case. I'd much rather people buy a device than have a bunch of desperate people building their own puck mods.
I'd like a Procyon Stealth and a Radius to go, please.
No, I can't afford to just buy those unless I make payments for a few months..I have a 14 year old who likes Nike...
But I think it's a good investment.
 

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I'd like a Procyon Stealth and a Radius to go, please.
No, I can't afford to just buy those unless I make payments for a few months..I have a 14 year old who likes Nike...
But I think it's a good investment.
Yeah, for personal reasons, I haven't stocked up like I want to. I've got the hardware covered, and I've got at least 5 years worth of nic or more, but another liter would make me feel a lot better... Maybe later this month, if I can find a vendor who will still ship to me by then.
 

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What do you mean by this ? Why can't the vendors who have no plans to file a PMTA, stay in business until August 7, 2018, if they have complied with the 'age verification', 'registration', 'product listing', and 'ingredient listing' requirements of the deemings by the respective deadlines ? My understanding is the vendors who do file a PMTA get an additional year, unless their application is rejected during that year.
 
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Hopefully they stick around at least until it's apparent that they'll have to shut down. I can understand not wanting to sink money into a PMTA though.

I know. Besides, without innovation, can they even survive as a company? Making the same three mods for eternity? Is this a viable business model?

By most accounts a provari 2.5 is the most durable pv, other than a mech, and from what I've seen on the forums failures are rare. I suggest everyone who can, learn mech safety and get a decent one. Just in case. I'd much rather people buy a device than have a bunch of desperate people building their own puck mods.

The chip is the weak link.

I'm afraid of mechs. I don't want a mech. Stupid FDA--they worry about our safety and they are forcing people to buy 100 and 200 mg/ml nic and mechanical mods. :-x
 

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I do have a ProVari.
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Now let's just pray that ProVape was just venting and is not really planning on going out of business. If they are serious, all those peeps who "just got a ProVari" are not any better off than everybody else, I'm afraid.

Once again I can't "like," but you know I was teasing.

So I'm drafting my latest rant and it occurred to me: How many people have died from inhaling vapor since 2009 and today? How many people have died from cigarette smoking since 2009 and today? How can the FDA ignore that?

Rhetorical question/preaching to the choir.
 

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Yeah, for personal reasons, I haven't stocked up like I want to. I've got the hardware covered, and I've got at least 5 years worth of nic or more, but another liter would make me feel a lot better... Maybe later this month, if I can find a vendor who will still ship to me by then.

Nude Nicotine seems to think that they'll be OK, at least for now. But who knows.
 

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What do you mean by this ? Why can't the vendors who have no plans to file a PMTA, stay in business until August 7, 2018, if they have complied with the 'age verification', 'registration', 'product listing', and 'ingredient listing' requirements of the deemings by the respective deadlines ? My understanding is the vendors who do file a PMTA get an additional year, unless their application is rejected during that year.
Here is the VTA guidance calendar.
Dropbox - VTA Guidance - Deeming Compliance Calendar - FINAL.pdf
 

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Yeah, for personal reasons, I haven't stocked up like I want to. I've got the hardware covered, and I've got at least 5 years worth of nic or more, but another liter would make me feel a lot better... Maybe later this month, if I can find a vendor who will still ship to me by then.
Why wouldn't one ship to you? Aren't you still in California?
Excuse me if I'm being nosy..or ignorant of some law in California.

I'm pretty covered with mods and tanks..wire and batteries..many flavors in the fridge
pipe tobacco soaking in VG, 500 ml 100mg/ml Nude nicotine
another liter I'll be getting for my B-Day..maybe get another liter from ecigx for the 4th July. Have 2 liters VG..I'm covered.But still want another Evic mini
my son is buying me
and would like the above mentioned Provape mods
because I know they'll work in few years.

Know what's cool about this forum?
I was just chatting with a dude from Viet Nam about buying juice.
 

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I'm afraid of mechs. I don't want a mech. Stupid FDA--they worry about our safety and they are forcing people to buy 100 and 200 mg/ml nic and mechanical mods. :-x
I have a couple old semi-mechs..but..I can always make a mech out of an old mag lite
and an eGo, make it variable voltage with a rheostat and run it with rechargeable D cells.

See what the FDA has done.
If I blow my face off it's all their fault...
 

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The vendor was actually very nice after I emailed them. They offered a solution that I won't disclose here, but this is just the beginning, as Les said. As California goes... :facepalm: You guys have 3 more months--unless you happen to live in
  • California
  • Massachusetts
  • Hawaii
  • Texas
  • New York

Living in MA, and knowing what is going on in CA... I can't tell if this is a good or bad thing???
 

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I know. Besides, without innovation, can they even survive as a company? Making the same three mods for eternity? Is this a viable business model?



The chip is the weak link.

I'm afraid of mechs. I don't want a mech. Stupid FDA--they worry about our safety and they are forcing people to buy 100 and 200 mg/ml nic and mechanical mods. :-x
I know you know how to research, find a mech with good ventilation, a hot spring, and an adjustable center pin. The safety part becomes a routine very quickly and with the wattage you vape at, you're golden. Learning when to change batteries might be the hardest part for you, until you learn to pick up the subtle drop in flavor/performance.
 

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Well, they could just tax the crap out of vaping like they do everything else to make up for the loss. Much better option than killing millions of people IMHO.
NO! General revenue shortfalls should be borne by the general public. Why is this repeated over and over? Vaping is not smoking. It is not evil. It deserves no inordinate tax by prior association.
 

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