Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

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Why, the restriction is a State one, not a Federal one.
I don't understand your question. U.S. Customs is a Federal agency dealing with Federal laws. They don't enforce the varying violations in all 50 states. Each state is compelled by law to comply with the deeming regs. (But each state can impose harsher restrictions).
 

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I don't understand your question. U.S. Customs is a Federal agency dealing with Federal laws. They don't enforce the varying violations in all 50 states. Each state is compelled by law to comply with the deeming regs. (But each state can impose harsher restrictions).
Because you said "In your example, they'll still most likely seize it.", why would the Feds still seize it?
 

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Something I have been wondering:

Does US Customs have the authority, or obligation, to enforce "State" restrictions?

For example, if someone in Hong Kong sends something that is obviously vape related to someone in Arkansas what is the US Customs responsibility?

Generally, no, they won't. There are exceptions to this where if you go through customs in the actual state, they may enforce the state laws as well. So if it's being shipped, it's doubtful they'll seize it. If you're carrying it from overseas and go through customs in a state that has tougher restrictions, then it's possible they may.
 

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Just had a salesman come in to the office...he saw my stuff on my desk and announced that he vapes too...

Doesn't have a clue as to what is going on...thought it was just about diacetyl in liquids.

Short chat was had, ECF and CASAA info given.
 

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FYI: Published today in the Federal Register:

Tobacco Product Manufacturing Facility Visits

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA), Center for Tobacco Products (CTP) is announcing an invitation for participation in its Tobacco Product Manufacturing Facility Visits. This program is intended to give FDA staff an opportunity to visit facilities involved in the manufacturing of newly deemed tobacco products and their components and parts, including any related laboratory testing, and to observe the manufacturing operations of the tobacco industry. The purpose of this document is to invite parties interested in participating in Tobacco Product Manufacturing Facility Visits to submit requests to CTP.

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Sure FDA, I'm inviting you to my mixing station in my kitchen. /lol /joke

Basic cleanliness and hygiene mandates no garbage,no contaminants, no trash in the facility.
So how on earth am I gonna let FDA in without compromising GMP ? :D
 

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Basic cleanliness and hygiene mandates no garbage,no contaminants, no trash in the facility.
So how on earth am I gonna let FDA in without compromising GMP ? :D

Do what I do. Stuff it all in a closet, a quick paper towel wipe down of the kitchen counter, and have the dog greet them at the door.
 

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Just had a salesman come in to the office...he saw my stuff on my desk and announced that he vapes too...

Doesn't have a clue as to what is going on...thought it was just about diacetyl in liquids.

Short chat was had, ECF and CASAA info given.
This to me is one of the most troubling aspects of what we are dealing with: fellow vapers who have no idea what happened on 5/5/16. How can our message go viral so that ALL vapers would be aware of what is happening? We've got lots of creative people in this conversation what ideas are out there?
 

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This to me is one of the most troubling aspects of what we are dealing with: fellow vapers who have no idea what happened on 5/5/16. How can our message go viral so that ALL vapers would be aware of what is happening? We've got lots of creative people in this conversation what ideas are out there?

Retailers can reach ALL but a Very Few vapers.
 

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Because you said "In your example, they'll still most likely seize it.", why would the Feds still seize it?
Sorry Mike. I was speaking for the future.

I meant that technically... down the road... if the full deeming regs go into effect unchallenged... AND assuming the exporter's goods are not FDA compliant, then U.S. Customs has full authority to seize them.
 

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I meant that technically... down the road... if the full deeming regs go into effect unchallenged... AND assuming the exporter's goods are not FDA compliant, then U.S. Customs has full authority to seize them.

And this is exactly what happened back in 2007 with the first FDA regulations.
 

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I think at the end of the day, its going to boil down to paying higher taxes and be limited on diy. I think mods will be repurposed as something other as a non tobacco product. I'm sure somewhere over seas there is a marketing team working on it, as their salary is cheaper than the fda approval just my:2c: and opinion.
 

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Amazing if Customs ends up devoting much manpower to this stuff considering all the other crap they really should be keeping out of this country.
Well, Although the FDA has publicly stated they can handle it... I personally don't think they've thought through the logistics. Also don't know where they're going to get the budget if more manpower is needed.

This is how black markets succeed. If China or somebody else decides that 80-90% of their product can still get through, those are good odds to them I think.
 

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Well, Although the FDA has publicly stated they can handle it... I personally don't think they've thought through the logistics. Also don't know where they're going to get the budget if more manpower is needed.
More Taxes :rolleyes:
 

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FYI: Published today in the Federal Register:

Tobacco Product Manufacturing Facility Visits

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA), Center for Tobacco Products (CTP) is announcing an invitation for participation in its Tobacco Product Manufacturing Facility Visits. This program is intended to give FDA staff an opportunity to visit facilities involved in the manufacturing of newly deemed tobacco products and their components and parts, including any related laboratory testing, and to observe the manufacturing operations of the tobacco industry. The purpose of this document is to invite parties interested in participating in Tobacco Product Manufacturing Facility Visits to submit requests to CTP.

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Sure FDA, I'm inviting you to my mixing station in my kitchen. /lol /joke

Some facilities are more than ready for this.
 

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I bought some NIC today and the owner of the company I bought it from met me outside in the parking lot and handed me the NIC in a brown paper bag and I handed him cash.

Legit company and he had to rush out and I was late meeting him so hence the shady looking transaction, but I fully expect NIC sales in the coming years will be done in this manner.
 

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