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    That pretty much sums up the current state of government.
    Both here, and everywhere, since the birth of mankind.

    We had a fun ride while it lasted though!

    We were cool, we were new, we were edgy...
    We thought we were above the fray.
    :laugh:
    We are still cool and edgy, er, on edge maybe. :eek:
     

    Lessifer

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    Check Out what it says on the bottom of Page #68...


    Section 1233-A. Labeling and packaging.


    It shall be unlawful to knowingly possess, sell, give,

    transfer or deliver to any person, any tobacco product where the

    packaging of which has been modified or altered by a person

    other than the original manufacturer. Modification or alteration

    shall include the placement of a sticker, writing or mark to

    cover information on the packages. For purposes of this section,

    a tobacco product package shall not be construed to have been

    modified or altered by a person other than the manufacturer if

    the most recent modification or alteration was made by the

    manufacturer or person authorized by the manufacturer and

    approved by the department.


    Section 1234-A. Information exchange.


    The department is authorized to exchange information with any

    other Federal, State or local enforcement agency for purposes of

    enforcing this article.

    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS...d=0&billBody=H&billTyp=B&billNbr=1198&pn=3731

    So if you get Pulled Over and have some e-liquid in a Dripper Bottle, its off to Sing-Sing you go.

    Did we Lose a War or Something?
    Is this America?
    I know it says possess, but I'm pretty sure that's in regards to marketing/sale. As in, if you want to transfer cigs from a pack into a cigarette holder, for personal use, that's okay, but if you split a pack of 20 to four smaller boxes of 5 for sale, that's not okay.
     

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    I know it says possess, but I'm pretty sure that's in regards to marketing/sale. As in, if you want to transfer cigs from a pack into a cigarette holder, for personal use, that's okay, but if you split a pack of 20 to four smaller boxes of 5 for sale, that's not okay.

    At this point Les, I really Wonder exactly How Far Pennsylvania would go in Seeking a Conviction? Let alone just being Sited.

    Man... Have you Read this Bill? Holy Snit.

    I thought California was Coo Coo for Cocoa Puffs. This Pennsylvania Law is 20 Miles of Bad Road.

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    At this point Les, I really Wonder exactly How Far Pennsylvania would go in Seeking a Conviction? Let alone just being Sited.

    Man... Have you Read this Bill? Holy Snit.

    I thought California was Coo Coo for Cocoa Puffs. This Pennsylvania Law is 20 Miles of Bad Road.

    :blink:
    That is how pa rolls.. Not surprised or shocked.

    Tappayappin
     

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    At this point Les, I really Wonder exactly How Far Pennsylvania would go in Seeking a Conviction? Let alone just being Sited.

    Man... Have you Read this Bill? Holy Snit.

    I thought California was Coo Coo for Cocoa Puffs. This Pennsylvania Law is 20 Miles of Bad Road.

    :blink:
    I got carded for a lighter... She said it's a tobacco product..

    Tappayappin
     

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    At this point Les, I really Wonder exactly How Far Pennsylvania would go in Seeking a Conviction? Let alone just being Sited.

    Man... Have you Read this Bill? Holy Snit.

    I thought California was Coo Coo for Cocoa Puffs. This Pennsylvania Law is 20 Miles of Bad Road.

    :blink:
    There have been some pretty dire consequences for selling individual cigarettes... so who knows?

    I'd like to think provisions like that are in place to "protect" the state against black market sellers, but I'm not going to say it won't happen, I know better than that.
     

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    We are voting on a $2.00 per pack hike in Nov. At this time, I think ecig taxing is left up to the cities, and counties.

    Can a City or a County impose their own Tobacco Taxes under the current CA law?

    Isn't that why they are doing a Ballot Imitative?
     

    zoiDman

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    There have been some pretty dire consequences for selling individual cigarettes... so who knows?

    I'd like to think provisions like that are in place to "protect" the state against black market sellers, but I'm not going to say it won't happen, I know better than that.

    Yeah... I Hope So. Because I posted just what was in the Labeling Section.

    Check Out the Sale or Possession Section from Page #58....


    Section 1207-A. Sales or possession of tobacco product when tax

    not paid.

    (a) Sales or possession.--Any person who sells or possesses

    any tobacco product for which the proper tax has not been paid

    commits a summary offense and shall, upon conviction, be

    sentenced to pay costs of prosecution and a fine of not less

    than $100 nor more than $1,000 or to imprisonment for not more

    than 60 days, or both, at the discretion of the court. Any

    tobacco products purchased from a wholesaler properly licensed

    under this article shall be presumed to have the proper taxes

    paid.

    (b) Tax evasion.--Any person that shall falsely or

    fraudulently, maliciously, intentionally or willfully with

    intent to evade the payment of the tax imposed by this article

    sells or possesses any tobacco product for which the proper tax

    has not been paid commits a felony and shall, upon conviction,

    be sentenced to pay costs of prosecution and a fine of not more

    than $5,000 or to imprisonment for not more than five years, or

    both, at the discretion of the court.

    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS...d=0&billBody=H&billTyp=B&billNbr=1198&pn=3731
     
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