Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[Sugar_and_Spice]

California vendors mostly from what I have seen. This is indeed startling. My local BnM, with hundreds of 30ml bottles has nothing childproof or labeling of any kind. One hundred Teleos bottles alone, more....ouch

WEll, get down there and start buying to help them out. LOL j/k

 

[Downgraded286]

I'm getting sick of hearing about kids. It's nothing more than a cute phrase to push their agenda. It's the parent's responsibility to make sure their kids aren't doing adult things. Kids aren't supposed to drive. Do we ban vehicles? No, in order to drive you must have a driver's license, which you can't get until you reach a certain age. Kids aren't supposed to own guns. Do we ban guns? No, you have to meet a certain age to purchase a gun (and go through gun control processes). Kids aren't supposed to smoke, but you can go buy a pack of Marlboros right now as long as you're over 18.

Maybe we should all still be in school and only given tasty sugary drinks after noon by our 'elected' superiors. I could go on, but I'm late for nap time. I've got coloring to do when my teacher wakes me up.

 

[Bonskibon]

Perhaps vendors can have flash sales and make sure they get shipped Monday the 25th.

 

[Buckeyevapen]

Wait, so the FDA can't even follow their own deeming? August 8th it will start, eh never mind July 26th would be better.

So follow rules as laid out here unless told differently without notice.

Man I hope a judge smacks these folks.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Wait, so the FDA can't even follow their own deeming? August 8th it will start, eh never mind July 26th would be better.

So follow rules as laid out here unless told differently without notice.

Man I hope a judge smacks these folks.

This is not the FDA. It is the Consumer Products and Safety Comm.

 

[Bonskibon]

But why give less than a week to comply with a weekend thrown in to boot? Surely CPSC knows that vendors probably have tons of stock now. It just seems to be a free for all towards vaping.

 

[bnrkwest]

I'm getting sick of hearing about kids. It's nothing more than a cute phrase to push their agenda. It's the parent's responsibility to make sure their kids aren't doing adult things. Kids aren't supposed to drive. Do we ban vehicles? No, in order to drive you must have a driver's license, which you can't get until you reach a certain age. Kids aren't supposed to own guns. Do we ban guns? No, you have to meet a certain age to purchase a gun (and go through gun control processes). Kids aren't supposed to smoke, but you can go buy a pack of Marlboros right now as long as you're over 18.

Maybe we should all still be in school and only given tasty sugary drinks after noon by our 'elected' superiors. I could go on, but I'm late for nap time. I've got coloring to do when my teacher wakes me up.

Coloring is good for relaxing We may all need to color to get thru all this LOL

 

[zoiDman]

This site has provided some Info on the CRP Requirements...

Your E-Liquid could be illegal by July 26, 2016, But I Can Help For Free

BTW - I Really Like how this company has a Activism section on their Website.

 

[Mazinny]

Wait, so the FDA can't even follow their own deeming? August 8th it will start, eh never mind July 26th would be better.

So follow rules as laid out here unless told differently without notice.

Man I hope a judge smacks these folks.

This is separate from the FDA deeming regs i believe. The Child Nicotine Poisoning Prevention Act of 2015 was enacted by congress on 1/28/2016 and scheduled to take effect 180 days after enactment ( 7/26/2016 ). What has changed is the interpretation of the following by the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission:

any nicotine provided in a liquid nicotine container sold, offered for sale, manufactured for sale, distributed in commerce, or imported into the United States shall be packaged in accordance with the standards provided in section 1700.15 of title 16, Code of Federal Regulations, as determined through testing in accordance with the method described in section 1700.20 of title 16, Code of Federal Regulations, and any subsequent changes to such sections adopted by the Commission.
Text - S.142 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): Child Nicotine Poisoning Prevention Act of 2015

It seems they are saying that they misinterpreted the law in their previous guidance letter to the industry on June 7, 2016 !

 

[Bob Chill]

All my recent nic base purchased came with childproof caps. Whether that means they are in compliance or not...I have no idea.

 

[Alexander Mundy]

Phhhht, one of our local news stations got 6 kids that looked 4 to 5 years old together around a table and put empty child proof bottles out for them to tinker with while secretly filming. They had 3 opened in less than 2 minutes. I thought it was informative but was a little taken back that they might have been inadvertently training them with the challange itself. Anywho, they are more likely to be senior citizen proof.

 

[oplholik]

Phhhht, one of our local news stations got 6 kids that looked 4 to 5 years old together around a table and put empty child proof bottles out for them to tinker with while secretly filming. They had 3 opened in less than 2 minutes. I thought it was informative but was a little taken back that they might have been inadvertently training them with the challange itself. Anywho, they are more likely to be senior citizen proof.

With my arthritic hands, I have to have the wife open some things for me.

 

[Lessifer]

California vendors mostly from what I have seen. This is indeed startling. My local BnM, with hundreds of 30ml bottles has nothing childproof or labeling of any kind. One hundred Teleos bottles alone, more....ouch

Well, they should have known this was coming. This is separate from the deeming. This SHOULD only effect leftover stock from the transition, but I'm sure there are some out there who haven't prepared at all.

 

[zoiDman]

Phhhht, one of our local news stations got 6 kids that looked 4 to 5 years old together around a table and put empty child proof bottles out for them to tinker with while secretly filming. They had 3 opened in less than 2 minutes. I thought it was informative but was a little taken back that they might have been inadvertently training them with the challange itself. Anywho, they are more likely to be senior citizen proof.

What CRP Standard(s) did those bottles Conform To that were so Easily Opened?

Or were they just OEM branded "Child Resistant" without any Certification?

 

[Bronze]

When child-proof caps first came out (vis-a-vis the Tylenol case), my father referred to them as "people-proof caps".

 

[Buckeyevapen]

This is separate from the FDA deeming regs i believe. The Child Nicotine Poisoning Prevention Act of 2015 was enacted by congress on 1/28/2016 and scheduled to take effect 180 days after enactment ( 7/26/2016 ). What has changed is the interpretation of the following by the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission:

any nicotine provided in a liquid nicotine container sold, offered for sale, manufactured for sale, distributed in commerce, or imported into the United States shall be packaged in accordance with the standards provided in section 1700.15 of title 16, Code of Federal Regulations, as determined through testing in accordance with the method described in section 1700.20 of title 16, Code of Federal Regulations, and any subsequent changes to such sections adopted by the Commission.
Text - S.142 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): Child Nicotine Poisoning Prevention Act of 2015

It seems they are saying that they misinterpreted the law in their previous guidance letter to the industry on June 7, 2016 !

Ah, thank you for the clarification.

 

[Lessifer]

1. 
   What is a child-resistant package?
   
   
   A child-resistant package is one that is designed or constructed to be significantly difficult for children under 5 to open or obtain a harmful amount of the contents within a reasonable time. In addition, the package must not be difficult for normal adults to use properly.
   
   
   
   For a package to be child resistant, a total of 80 percent of the children tested according to the procedure summarized below must not open the package during a full 10 minutes of testing. Please check below for more information about the level of child resistance required during the first 5 minutes of testing.
   
   
   
   To make sure that adults are able to use a child-resistant package properly, 90 percent of adults tested have up to 5 minutes, and then another minute in a second test, to open and close the package so that it is child resistant again.
   
   
   

 

[Mazinny]

SFATA supported this law btw :

The Smoke-Free Alternatives Trade Association (SFATA), the largest trade group representing the vapor industry, supports Sens. John Thune (R-South Dakota) and Bill Nelson (D-Florida) for their actions in helping lead the effort for final passage of the Child Nicotine Poisoning Prevention Act, and President Obama, for singing the bill into law on January 28, 2016.

SFATA SUPPORTS SIGNAGE OF CHILD NICOTINE POISONING PREVENTION ACT OF 2015 - SFATA | Smoke Free Alternatives Trade Association

 

[Lessifer]

SFATA supported this law btw :

The Smoke-Free Alternatives Trade Association (SFATA), the largest trade group representing the vapor industry, supports Sens. John Thune (R-South Dakota) and Bill Nelson (D-Florida) for their actions in helping lead the effort for final passage of the Child Nicotine Poisoning Prevention Act, and President Obama, for singing the bill into law on January 28, 2016.

SFATA SUPPORTS SIGNAGE OF CHILD NICOTINE POISONING PREVENTION ACT OF 2015 - SFATA | Smoke Free Alternatives Trade Association

No comment. other than to say no comment

 

[mattiem]

With my arthritic hands, I have to have the wife open some things for me.

I had to literally cut the child proof cap off of the last 2 liters of nic I bought from RTS. Just one more of the many "freedom of choice" we have lost In some cultures older folks are revered. Here we get thrown away "for the kids".