Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

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Someone just needs to start processing something other than tobacco to make the nicotine. I hear the Nicotiana rustica - Wikipedia plant has 9 times as much nicotine than tobacco. (And it's not smoked very often around the world.) Some other poster said he is growing it (lost the link).

If it has nothing to do with tobacco, how can they regulate it?
 

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Someone just needs to start processing something other than tobacco to make the nicotine. I hear the Nicotiana rustica - Wikipedia plant has 9 times as much nicotine than tobacco. (And it's not smoked very often around the world.) Some other poster said he is growing it (lost the link).

If it has nothing to do with tobacco, how can they regulate it?
They already classify nicotine as a drug, which has its own set of regulations. The only reason the nicotine we use is not regulated as a drug is because it comes from tobacco. It probably wouldn't be any better on the drug route.
 

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They already classify nicotine as a drug, which has its own set of regulations. The only reason the nicotine we use is not regulated as a drug is because it comes from tobacco. It probably wouldn't be any better on the drug route.
There's nothing wrong with nicotine.
 

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There's nothing wrong with nicotine.
Didn't say there was. Drug as in the sense that aspirin is a drug, regulated under the FDA, requiring clinical testing prior to being authorized for sale in the US.
 

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Didn't say there was. Drug as in the sense that aspirin is a drug, regulated under the FDA, requiring clinical testing prior to being authorized for sale in the US.
Got a link to that? I bought FDA approved but the same place sold it a little cheaper without the FDA numbers.
 

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IMO, had Hillary won there would be no chance the Deeming regs would have been reversed or diluted through 2058 or Cole-Bishop or the FDA.
Well, Cole-Bishop pretty much died already in December.

But the Government coffers need filling again in April so maybe something else will replace it.

But I'm not hopeful. I still fear the deeming will fly through under the radar. Unopposed.

Someone just needs to start processing something other than tobacco to make the nicotine. I hear the Nicotiana rustica - Wikipedia plant has 9 times as much nicotine than tobacco. (And it's not smoked very often around the world.) Some other poster said he is growing it (lost the link).

If it has nothing to do with tobacco, how can they regulate it?
The FDA has already deemed synthetic nicotine under their watch and it's not derived from tobacco.

Can't win when you ain't in charge of the rules. :(
 

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Well, Cole-Bishop pretty much died already in December.

But the Government coffers need filling again in April so maybe something else will replace it.

But I'm not hopeful. I still fear the deeming will fly through under the radar. Unopposed.

When did Cole bishop die? to my knowledge it's still attached to that appropriations bill which will likely be passed and signed by Trump.
 

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Well, Cole-Bishop pretty much died already in December.

But the Government coffers need filling again in April so maybe something else will replace it.

But I'm not hopeful. I still fear the deeming will fly through under the radar. Unopposed.
That's my biggest fear. Things like Obamacare will suck all the oxygen out of the DHHS and leave no air for Deeming. This is why Senator Johnson could be crucial to our efforts. So far he has been a solid champion for us and it might just take his persistence to get us the time of day.
 

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When did Cole bishop die? to my knowledge it's still attached to that appropriations bill which will likely be passed and signed by Trump.

I think this falls under the "Hope for the Best, but Plan for the Worst" category.
 

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That's my biggest fear. Things like Obamacare will suck all the oxygen out of the DHHS and leave no air for Deeming. This is why Senator Johnson could be crucial to our efforts. So far he has been a solid champion for us and it might just take his persistence to get us the time of day.
This is my feelings exactly!!!
I'm still waiting for a definite yes or no.
 

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That's my biggest fear. Things like Obamacare will suck all the oxygen out of the DHHS and leave no air for Deeming. This is why Senator Johnson could be crucial to our efforts. So far he has been a solid champion for us and it might just take his persistence to get us the time of day.

Well, so as not to lose all hope, there's this from Forbes

"...One appointment, though, will have a profound impact on your health… and the health of your loved ones.

The “progressive approval” process for drugs

The first potential FDA chief appointee leaked by the Trump transition team is Jim O’Neill. Managing director of Peter Thiel’s Mithril Capital, O’Neill has publicly supported proposals to do away with the FDA’s requirement for phase 2 and 3 trials. Instead, he favors “progressive approval” of drugs and other medical technologies...
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Interesting to not only wanting to rework drug approval, but a buddy of Thiel's. The guy has to know all about NJoy.
 

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