Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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Because they just released a new tank using those coils
. I want a trouble free tank that uses pre-built coils.
I have been vaping clone BVC's from China. Half the price and can't tell the difference. And like you say... there are a lot of Nautilus users out there. If I had to guess (just a guess), I'd say these are the #1 selling coils on the planet.
As long as they continue to ask me if I "smoke", I'll keep checking the "no" box. And if I get threatened with a nic test, I'll clean myself up for a couple of weeks and vape zero nic.
Oh they defiantly are the number one selling coil! The main reason why I want the Kabuki is because Busardo likes it and I've gone by Phil's reviews for pretty much every purchase.
I don't think insurance companies care. Patches, gum, chew... if nicotine is found in your system you'll pay more.
As far as telling a physician? I wouldn't and don't tell them I ingest nicotine. They're too quick to blame everything from a hangnail to cardiac arrest on vaping because of the latest junk science blurb they've read.
Or gum or lozenges Its rather ridiculous the way some insurance companies are lobbying for this cash grab.
It isnt about health or safety... Insurance companies charge extra from smokers... the conversion from smoking to vaping is safer but not smoking thus less profit for shareholders... big pharma gets money from the suicide pill er um chantix and from patch and gum and such govt gets to tax the hell out of analogues and not vaping.... its all one cash grab... the liberal idea of over-regulating was that instead of taxing the people they get their money from obscene hoops to jump through at enormous expense for any new idea that comes to market and force the companies to just raise prices to accommodate rather than impose the tax directly on the customer. Its all about the $$
Yeah. I was thrown into the looney bin one time, and I had been in jail for 3 days already. I told the nurse, you better get me a patch so I can pass the psych evaluation. Didn't take more than 15 minutes; lady comes up to me, rolls up my sleeve and slaps on a patch. 2 hours later I was released from the mental health facility 220 miles from home. Patch was free.
No charges were ever filed, nothing on my record. It was all game playing during a divorce. So all is fine.
Cole-Bishop 2017 would require classified vape retailers to register with the FDA according to vaping.com. This provision it would seem is irrespective of whether or not they sell any proscribed or regulated products going forward. That is to say…Don't sell nicotine products? You're still a tobacco reseller.
Don't understand how such a subscription by a business does not in itself compel it legally to comply with any rules set by the FDA having so certified.
"Give the federal government the ability to enforce the law."
Why should we?
Smells like combustion to me.
Extract vaping from tobacco regulation, I say.
Good luck all.
Don't understand how such a subscription by a business does not in itself compel it legally to comply with any rules set by the FDA having so certified.
"Give the federal government the ability to enforce the law."
Why should we?
Smells like combustion to me.
Extract vaping from tobacco regulation, I say.
Good luck all.
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It's only if they sell defined vapor products. And the alternative is 99% of products off the market.
So, take your pick: die on 8/8/18 or live to reform FDA later. I know where I'll be!
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So, take your pick: die on 8/8/18 or live to reform FDA later. I know where I'll be!
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I'd like to try and understand how I can have a product on the market when I'm told what I can make and sell (and be taxed for the privilege). Who draws the line on what my property is? And where does that end up predictably? When someone else controls the goal post and boundaries? And why was that exactly, for the children? Tangled webs don't work for me. Just sayin'.
In war we're often reminded you have to acknowledge you're already dead to gain the will to survive it.
Good luck all.
In war we're often reminded you have to acknowledge you're already dead to gain the will to survive it.
Good luck all.
IMO the focus needs to be on the fact that Vaping is NOT a Tobacco product. All the rest of this including the Cole/Bishop Amendment is a Red Herring. If they do rule that Vaping is Tobacco because of Nicotine they'll have to include Potato's, Tomato's, Eggplant, Broccoli, etc. etc. etc. Which would expose further how out of touch with reality they are.
Not really. They could easily define a concentration of nic that constitutes a tobacco product, say 0.5 mg/ml. There's precedent for that in the beverage industry where less than 0.5% alcohol content is not considered an "adult" beverage. Nic concentrations in the vegetables you mention are orders of magnitude less than that.
Or...
As is their history...
They can say screw health, precedents and the public they're supposed to protect and represent...
And create a new precedent to protect the interest of their financial backers and destroy anything else.
Smart money bets on this goal never wavering.
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Then it would be Adult juice, not Tobacco. Thus Hardware or the like would not be adult since they contain zero nicotine.
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Eggs-actly! Is Coca-Cola an alcohol product just because you can add rum to it? Is orange juice an alcohol product just because you can add vodka? Is a shot glass an alcohol product because it's possible to fill it with tequila?
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