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Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

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    "Other companies that may benefit from Gottlieb's presence are manufacturers of electronic nicotine delivery systems such as e-cigarettes. The American Enterprise Institute has consistently argued that there is no evidence to show that the risk of vaping comes near to the risk of smoking."

    Trump nominates FDA head with deep ties to drug companies
     

    Lessifer

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    Well, I believe that he wants to scale back regulations (good for us) and lower taxes in an effort to spur economic growth, just for starters.
    I've heard the 30,000ft version, but the devil is in the details. Scaling back regulations because they're choking an industry can look very different from scaling back an industry because you want to increase profit margins, which can look different from believing regulations as a whole are bad. And anywhere in between. I like details.
     

    zoiDman

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    Well at least we know who might be the head of the FDA.
    He still has to be confirmed, but looks like, so far, that he has an inside track.

    My Crystal Ball say it will go Right Down Party Lines. With Independents voting Ney.

    But then again, my Crystal Ball had Clinton easily winning. So it might need a Firmware Upgrade?
     

    englishmick

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    My Crystal Ball say it will go Right Down Party Lines. With Independents voting Ney.

    But then again, my Crystal Ball had Clinton easily winning. So it might need a Firmware Upgrade?

    Or the Russians have hacked your crystal ball.

    I read some stuff about Gottlieb a few weeks ago and posted it somewhere here. He was a member of an outfit that specialized in producing pseudo-scientific reports for BP lobbyists. Doesn't mean he was a true believer in BP causes, or is still guided by loyalty to their interests. Can't be worse for us than his predecessor though.
     

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    Or the Russians have hacked your crystal ball.

    I read some stuff about Gottlieb a few weeks ago and posted it somewhere here. He was a member of an outfit that specialized in producing pseudo-scientific reports for BP lobbyists. Doesn't mean he was a true believer in BP causes, or is still guided by loyalty to their interests. Can't be worse for us than his predecessor though.

    I hope he chucked his BP loyalties!
     

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    I've heard the 30,000ft version, but the devil is in the details. Scaling back regulations because they're choking an industry can look very different from scaling back an industry because you want to increase profit margins, which can look different from believing regulations as a whole are bad. And anywhere in between. I like details.
    Who doesn't? Until then we go with what we know.
     

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    New Cole-Bishop Stand Alone Bill Dropped: Broad Coalition Support

    Mid last month, House Resolution 1136 was filed by Congressman Tom Cole (R-Okla.). The "FDA Deeming Authority Clarification Act of 2017" accomplishes the same goals as the more well-known "Cole-Bishop Amendment," the amendment to the House Agriculture Appropriations Bill, which is still under consideration (see: alive) for the FY17 budget debate. (Reminder: the ultimate goal is a modernization of the February 2007 predicate date).

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    I remain highly skeptical that anything positive will come our way. If for some miracle they reign in the FDA we also have the State's, they're going to screw us no matter what happens.

    Bottom line, establish and maintain a healthy Stockpile or you're going to be just grabbing your ankles on the front lawn.
     

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    A two year delay is better than nothing but still retains the dark cloud hovering over the vaping community. What business person would want to risk all they have hanging their hopes on that cloud? If we want the industry to grow again we need some assurances that vaping will be an acceptable activity without it being choked off by regulators and government control freaks.

    The two things I've seen the deeming accomplish so far: 1) it gave states the confidence to move forward with heavy taxation and regulation 2) their cryptic non-answers to straight forward questions has stymied investment.
     

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    I remain highly skeptical that anything positive will come our way. If for some miracle they reign in the FDA we also have the State's, they're going to screw us no matter what happens.

    Bottom line, establish and maintain a healthy Stockpile or you're going to be just grabbing your ankles on the front lawn.
    I think we can be assured that vaping will get taxed and heavily because pols have a green light to do it. And we know they will tax anything they can. But taxing is a far cry better than eliminating which is where we are headed now. Will some states make it impossible to vape? Decent chance of that. Depends on the state you live in. But I will say that states tend to follow federal laws. Not always, but they tend to.
     

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    This bit of news was in my inbox this morning. Sounds good but I am in the hope, wait and see camp

    I think we can repeal the FDA deeming regs and replace with Johnson-Hunter legislation in the next 60 days—Mark Block, Electronic Vaping Coalition of America



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    Trump Card
    FDA Deeming Regs On Chopping Block


    With a stroke of the pen President Trump could take vaping out of tobacco and do away with the onerous FDA deeming regulations. Yes, repeal is that easy but replacing the regulations could be much harder—a winning vote is needed in both houses of Congress.

    After fighting the Obama era FDA with little to no effect, fortunes may be turning in favor of the U.S. vaping industry as President Trump begins to make-good on his campaign promise to repeal onerous regulations.

    Standing ready with new legislation to replace the deeming regs is Sen. Ron Johnson and Rep. Duncan Hunter, backstopped by a dedicated group of political operatives with connections that run directly into the White House.

    Vapers in America could use a win…will they get it? Find out—only on RegWatch by RegulatorWatch.com.


    This is what the petition Les posted and we have been promoting for well over a year has been trying to tell them to do all along. Our devices ARE NOT a tobacco product and they are not a drug so let's give them there own, well deserved, category.
     

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