Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

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Posted to CASAA's Facebook page and is awaiting approval before posting.

Think I will start a thread in the CASAA forum...

Great idea (and HI!!). Please post a link here, sweetie.
 

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"In the coming weeks I intend to introduce legislation to allow this industry to be regulated in a reasonable manner."

This sounds promising.

A politician's concept of reasonable regulation? My breath will not be held while waiting.
 

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A politician's concept of reasonable regulation? My breath will not be held while waiting.
While I am optimistic about our vaping future under the new administration, I too will not allow myself to get all giddy until I see what changes would be forthcoming...if any.
 

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A two year delay is better than nothing but still retains the dark cloud hovering over the vaping community. What business person would want to risk all they have hanging their hopes on that cloud? If we want the industry to grow again we need some assurances that vaping will be an acceptable activity without it being choked off by regulators and government control freaks.
 

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A two year delay is better than nothing but still retains the dark cloud hovering over the vaping community. What business person would want to risk all they have hanging their hopes on that cloud? If we want the industry to grow again we need some assurances that vaping will be an acceptable activity without it being choked off by regulators and government control freaks.

Maintaining a cloud of uncertainty is a subtle tactic of governmental control without the risks of actually acting. If the regulators do something then industries have the opportunity to adapt; if they do nothing but leave the cloud hanging then industries lose the ability to adapt. Uncertainty stifles innovation, investment and growth; it has the desired effect while giving the stifled nothing concrete to deal with.
Paraphrasing Microsoft, uncertainty is a feature not a bug.
 
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A politician's concept of reasonable regulation? My breath will not be held while waiting.

For Most Politicians, I would agree with you.

But I don't know Too Many politicians who have Openly taken a Hit on an e-Cigarette during a House Sub-Committee Hearing.

So when it comes to Politicians and Views on e-Cigarette Legislation, I would consider Rep. Duncan an Outlier.
 

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For Most Politicians, I would agree with you.

But I don't know Too Many politicians who have Openly taken a Hit on an e-Cigarette during a House Sub-Committee Hearing.

So when it comes to Politicians and Views on e-Cigarette Legislation, I would consider Rep. Duncan an Outlier.

I certainly hope that you are right.
 

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I certainly hope that you are right.

I Hope I am Also.

But even if I am, getting something thru the House/Senate isn't dependent on Valid Science, Good Public Health Policy, or even Common Sense.

Just have to Wait and See.

BTW - As States start to Load Up the e-Cigarette Tax Wagon, I think opinions on e-Cigarettes/e-Liquids is Starting to Shift.

Funny how Many State/Fed Law Makers might not like the Colour of the Goose. But they sure Like the Colour of the Eggs it Lays.
 

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Maintaining a cloud of uncertainty is a subtle tactic of governmental control without the risks of actually acting. If the regulators do something then industries have the opportunity to adapt; if they do nothing but leave the cloud hanging then industries lose the ability to adapt. Uncertainty stifles innovation, investment and growth; it has the desired effect while giving the stifled nothing concrete to deal with.
Paraphrasing Microsoft, uncertainty is a feature not a bug.
Yep. I just hope the vaping community can get big enough to where we can throw some real weight around. Then pity the politician who wants to try and take it away. Strength in numbers.
 

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A politician's concept of reasonable regulation? My breath will not be held while waiting.

I agree for most politicians, but this is Duncan Hunter, a vaper and vaper advocate himself, so you might breathe easier :- )
 

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So I have learned, he has many supports on the ECF.
Yes he does, and he is representing the district right next to mine.
But my district is represented by Darrell Issa, and that works pretty good for me too.

I like where I live.
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Yes he does, and he is representing the district right next to mine.
But my district is represented by Darrell Issa, and that works pretty good for me too.

I like where I live.
:)

I live in a district where my representative comes to town every two years around September or October. He whispers sweet nothings to me and my neighbors. Then he returns to Washington to dine and do business with the highest bidder. He is what no one should ever be: career politician.
 

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Some news on the FDA management side of things. Trump to select Scott Gottlieb, a physician with deep drug-industry ties, to run the FDA

No idea how this will play in relation to vaping.
Agree. There simply is no way of knowing how this appointment will play out vis-a-vis the Deeming regulations. Some find it crazy that Trump appoints billionaires to his cabinet. One would think there is no way he will come down on Wall Street and fat cats. His argument is that no one knows better how to lower the boom than those who have played the game. Bottom line, it will be Trump's principals and values that have to be followed or these appointees will be out of a job. Time and actions will tell.
 

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A politician's concept of reasonable regulation? My breath will not be held while waiting.

For Most Politicians, I would agree with you.

But I don't know Too Many politicians who have Openly taken a Hit on an e-Cigarette during a House Sub-Committee Hearing.

So when it comes to Politicians and Views on e-Cigarette Legislation, I would consider Rep. Duncan an Outlier.

I agree for most politicians, but this is Duncan Hunter, a vaper and vaper advocate himself, so you might breathe easier :- )

You might want to look into Duncan Hunter a bit more.
He is quite a big chunk of awesome, and a vaper on top of all that.
:)

Oh, yes! Duncan Hunter is not your regular politician.

He's a Marine (joined the Corps after 9/11) and a combat veteran (2 tours in Iraq and 1 in Afghanistan). He's also a good Republican and a fellow vaper.

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And he seems to be on a mission! :)

A good looking chunk of awesome, @DC2.
 

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