Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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eh, we haven't gotten sick so far. Sometimes you need a cheap easy dinner, and the kid likes pepperoni.And all along you thought that was sausage on your pizza.
What I did find surprising is that a week later the restaurant was open and had a new passed inspection, which noted that there was still evidence of rodent activity in the building, but not in the food. We're not going back there any time soon.
I don't blame you. There is evidence that rodents are in the building and inferential evidence that those residential rodents avoid the food, perhaps that is instructive.
If my posts come across as if I espouse anarchy that is not true. I see a need for government but a government restrained by the people. It will never be restrained by the political class. Currently our government is unrestrained by anything and certainly not the people. Those governed have bread, electronic and electric circuses; some even have access to "free" cell phones. And it is so easy for the governed to just let those who know best and who care most legislate and regulate until satiated. But, somehow, their thirst is never quenched.
A
Period
Any other letter on the inspection is an imminent hazard.
Lower than A+ is risky.
Say I buy lunch to go.
And I see a B on the way out.
That lunch goes directly in the garbage pail.
I've seen WAY too many dirty little secrets hidden behind B and better scores... and even 5 star restaurants.
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Yeah... we used to have letter grades. Now we have Passed, Conditional Passed, and Closed. I can guarantee you it wasn't the consumers who asked to have the system "simplified."
That's horrid and disgusting.
How recent was this?
Just in Sac?
Last time I was in Cali there was still letters by the entrances.
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I believe it's just in Sac, since 2007?
I remember the letter grades.
You CAN go online and see the two most recent inspections and any related re-inspections. So that's something. I used to work in cafe's and I know that a "Pass" is a very broad rating.
I won't pretend to understand the broad spectrum of meanings in Cali.
But I've seen some scary stuff under A grades on the east coast.
Both working in and running restaurants and catering and working in commercial refrigeration.
Also seen my share of pay-offs.
Including one place where I ran the kitchen that burnt down 2 weeks after I left.
The owner wouldn't put the money out to fix the electrical system.
My replacement didn't know jack about keeping the place from overloading.
I knew that place like the back of my hand. Started working there just after turning 15.
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I'm afraid you're reasoning here may be flawed B. The failure of government is not inevitable. It's assured however by the reticence of individuals to pursue the evolution and iteration of proper laws adherent to a continuity of principle. No principled basis, no lawful evolution of laws…no rights, no property, no toys, no vape.
So then how would concession to a proposed framework of regulatory authority and expansion help us? You see that would be control. Oh, and one btw that hasn't actually transpired yet…except that Congress act stupidly enough to codify the aberration that's already been put in play (in whole or part).
In my book that wouldn't be "control" though, but the lack of it. You see my mind works on the principle that we are the government and our elected its servants.
I know, I know…I ask all the wrong questions.
Perhaps I'm just a bit more optimistic than some to think that eventually discussion in our community will turn from who/what lit this empty stove and how we least burn our fingers to… How do we turn it off?
Good luck.
Perhaps I'm just a bit more optimistic than some to think that eventually discussion in our community will turn from who/what lit this empty stove and how we least burn our fingers to… How do we turn it off?
Good luck.
How profound, a simple concept!
If only it were conceivable to the masses.
Oh, wait!
It is. Or was...
Just not to the current generation of sheeple.
At least not yet... hopefully...
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I'm being honest here. I have no idea what you're talking about.I'm afraid you're reasoning here may be flawed B. The failure of government is not inevitable. It's assured however by the reticence of individuals to pursue the evolution and iteration of proper laws adherent to a continuity of principle. No principled basis, no lawful evolution of laws…no rights, no property, no toys, no vape.
So then how would concession to a proposed framework of regulatory authority and expansion help us? You see that would be control. Oh, and one btw that hasn't actually transpired yet…except that Congress act stupidly enough to codify the aberration that's already been put in play (in whole or part).
In my book that wouldn't be "control" though, but the lack of it. You see my mind works on the principle that we are the government and our elected its servants.
I know, I know…I ask all the wrong questions.
Perhaps I'm just a bit more optimistic than some to think that eventually discussion in our community will turn from who/what lit this empty stove and how we least burn our fingers to… How do we turn it off?
Good luck.
I understand the ideal, it just doesn't match with reality in my experience. You could see it as pacification, or you could see it as empowerment to concern yourself with higher level acts. The difference is both in the intent of the government, and the inclination of the governed.
I'm willing to accept some regulatory control so that I don't have to concern myself with the minutiae of things that would otherwise consume my life, but at the same time I try to remain vigilant so that regulatory control doesn't encroach on my personal freedom.
When it comes to vaping, we all see it as restricting our personal freedoms, and it is. However, view it from the angle of a parent of a teenager, a parent who neither smokes nor vapes. Ignoring the validity of the information that gets pumped out, but acknowledging that information is being pumped out, I can see the draw in accepting that the government is trying to protect my "child" from the new tobacco.
Of course it's nonsense and we have to fight it, but I can understand why non-smokers/non-vapers are inclined to accept the BS Tobacco Control spews without question.
Yeah, if you don't have a dog in the fight. Ask me what my position is on whatever regulations govern the use of model airplanes. If I cared I would set aside a little of my limited supply of time and energy to find out about it and form an opinion. But I'm sure there are plenty of fights going on in that arena, with purists and pragmatists and so forth strenuously berating each other.
I kind of get this view of government, especially in America. They sure don't seem to have our interests at the top of their priority list. The politicians probably stopped caring about the opinions of voters around the time emancipation spread beyond their own class of white landowning men.
Where I differ is in the area of the role of corporations and other power wielders. I don't believe the politicians primarily do what they do for their own amusement. They do it because the puppet masters in the big mansions pay them a bunch of money. I'm sure the bureaucrats in the FDA are happy to have something new to regulate, it's job security. But if the money was flowing in from vapers rather than BP the outcome would be different. The corporations scare me more than the politicians they hire to do their bidding. If I'm right then the corporations have pulled off a wonderful con job, persuading most of the people who have seen through the corruption of government to just not notice the elephant hiding behind the curtain. If I'm wrong, I guess that's possible too.
It is the voters who put these people in office. In many cases, for decades at a time. In the end and to a degree, we deserve what we get.
This is a transcript from a few days ago, but I don't think it was mentioned here yet. If so, my apologies. This is from Gottleib's first speech to FDA employees and the excerpt to read
"Among these and many other opportunities, there’s probably no single intervention, or product we’re likely to create in the near future that can have as profound an impact on reducing illness and death from disease as our ability to increase the rate of decline in smoking.
We need to redouble efforts to help more smokers become tobacco-free. And, we need to have the science base to explore the potential to move current smokers – unable or unwilling to quit – to less harmful products, if they can’t quit altogether. At all times, we must protect kids from the dangers of tobacco use."
Dr. Gottlieb’s First Remarks to FDA Staff
Could have been better, could have been worse.
"Among these and many other opportunities, there’s probably no single intervention, or product we’re likely to create in the near future that can have as profound an impact on reducing illness and death from disease as our ability to increase the rate of decline in smoking.
We need to redouble efforts to help more smokers become tobacco-free. And, we need to have the science base to explore the potential to move current smokers – unable or unwilling to quit – to less harmful products, if they can’t quit altogether. At all times, we must protect kids from the dangers of tobacco use."
Dr. Gottlieb’s First Remarks to FDA Staff
Could have been better, could have been worse.
I am hoping at this point that he isn't just another one that plans on "protecting the children" to the detriment of the adults this product was designed to help.
I often wonder if vaping is allowed to be more lucrative if someone could invent an e-cig that replicates a tobacco cigarette. If there were an e-cig/liquid that was 95 - 100% identical to a Marlboro think how easy it would be to switch for many smokers. While most of us have adjusted to other flavors, this is a horrifying thought to many who think about transitioning from cigarettes to e-cigs.
I understand the urge to see Big Pharma or Big Tobacco or any Big Corp as the evil genius behind whatever is happening. But Big Corp can't tax you, it can't make you buy any product, Big Corp can't put you in jail doing or failing to do anything only Big Government has that power. Where does government come from, does it come from the "paymasters" of Big Corp? No, government comes from us, we vote for the same politicians term, after term, after term. It is easy to blame the faceless Big Corp, it is more difficult to blame ourselves for the government we have chosen. We choose the corrupt and then say, "It wasn't me, it was that evil corporation".
Every two years on the second Tuesday of November there is an opportunity to rectify the situation. Regardless of one's feelings about the winner of the last presidential election there is one clear message. That is, Big Corp and Big Money lost. Both could lose again.
But, we choose these politicians. These politicians bring home that new road from BFE to nowhere. They get funds for that new wing on the library (named after themselves). They provide food, medical care, rent, phones, endless "grants", subsidies, tax credits and deductions. You name it and if enough voters want it then a politician will give it to them. If politicians are for sale (did I just say "if") then I would say that the citizens and their votes are for sale also. Votes are easily purchased through endless projects or "services" all of which can only be purchased by increasing debt. And all of which are loved the by the voting public.
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