Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

Myk

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Just saw this on social media:

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Sad proof that so many people are unaware of exactly what is happening to the vaping industry.

Unless something has recently changed, which I am not aware of, many people think that just e-liquid is considered a tobacco product...

They clearly don’t know the sad story of Provape closing its doors, and why it happened.

Let this be a reminder to educate your fellow vapers, and also family/friends who don’t vape, but who know what vaping has done for you!

(Also, if something has changed in regards to hardware no longer being considered a tobacco product, please let me know! It’s hard for an “average person” like me to decipher the legal language/gibberish being used to over-regulate this industry.)

People try to make sense and think that applies to govt. It also makes them feel secure believing in govt.
Some of us know what's really up though.
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stols001

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I'm SAFE I just won one.

Either that or very, very unsafe, one or the other. Here's hoping I handle what happens with grace i.e. love/hate it either one could have the Grave consequences. I'm just gonna pray for the ultimate good, which is what I do when confused, I mean can you go wrong with that prayer?

I suppose if the ultimate good is "death" you could, but like, at least then I won't have finances to deal with I HOPE I hope I'm not in hell and I'm like an actuary or something.

Okay, it's probably good I start with something FREE, at least at the present moment.

Anna
 

stols001

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I told him and he just shook his head and muttered, "Okay, I don't even know what that IS."
I was like, "You are gonna FIND OUT soon ENOUGH."
"Well if it's something new I hope you HATE it."

So yeah ya'll I expect you all to believe me, although I think I'm going to be buying more batteries soon probably. LOL.

There is no need to hide shiny purchases from this board, that' s like NUTS this is the one arena in my life where I can totally BOAST about said purchases, I mean no one else gets it. Well I think my husband does, but perhaps a little too well....

On the plus side, I have NOT bought any shoes in a long time and actually so far the kiddo being gone has only BOLSTERED my bank account, really.

Usually, (we had connected bank accounts) it was kind of depressing that his balance was higher than mine.. LOL. It wasn't even (that much) gratuitous spending on him (well a fair amount) but I'm no longer DRIVING him everywhere ,etc.

Anna
 

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OH NO.

A squonker I actually Want that is LOVELY. Tell me its fatal flaws quick quick man....

Anna

The Pumper is amazing.

You should look at their website.

Uses a pump system that siphons excess juice back into the bottle.

Probably the best squonker I’ve ever seen.

And the only BF mod that inspired me to own one.
 

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    ..but damn you win a LOT.
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    3 of my 4 mods, 2 regs and a mech, I won here. The fourth, a Provari, I bought from a member here. I won a RTA last week or so in a contest here, so I'll receive that in the near future.
     

    DPLongo22

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    I'm SAFE I just won one.

    Either that or very, very unsafe, one or the other. Here's hoping I handle what happens with grace i.e. love/hate it either one could have the Grave consequences. I'm just gonna pray for the ultimate good, which is what I do when confused, I mean can you go wrong with that prayer?

    I suppose if the ultimate good is "death" you could, but like, at least then I won't have finances to deal with I HOPE I hope I'm not in hell and I'm like an actuary or something.

    Okay, it's probably good I start with something FREE, at least at the present moment.

    Anna

    Congrats, Anna!!
     

    bhayes

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    Yes, if businesses were smart, and valued work, they wouldn't give that kind of a profit to the CEO.

    But, you were painted a narrative in business school and it sounds like you swallowed it whole.

    You know, you don't have to agree with everything that you learn in business school, or be its apologist or "explain it."

    We all know it's pure greed. Somehow, that PURE greed gets narrativized by business schools into some immutable thing that can't change or shouldn't change.

    You know when the income inequality is now worse than during the great depression and people actually like, don't care about outsourcing to FOREIGN KIDS and whatever, that's just.... That's just freaking the Industrial age on a global scale.

    Small smart business owners VALUE their employees. By the time all was through and done my husband was making AN EQUAL part in profit, for the dude who took on the risk. It was worth it to the owner, who perhaps was not as TALENTED at architectural matters than the business owner who was SUPER TALENTED at running a business, and my husband won enough awards and brought in MORE business so BOTH parties made more.

    It's just not all as simplistic as business school makes it, although I understand they are selling a narrative and crafting new, mid level corporate managers, willing to "WHIP" the expendable proletariat.

    And yea, pyramids get built, but the Egyptian culture of long ago is no longer in service.

    God.

    Anna
    It's just not all as simplistic as business school makes it, although I understand they are selling a narrative and crafting new, mid level corporate managers, willing to "WHIP" the expendable proletariat.

    I agree, if business school professors were so good at business modeling, they would be making $300,000+ in business, finance or management rather than $100,000 per year as business school professors, so to be business savvy yourself after college, you have to build on what they they teach you and and try to make a fortune and try to share your good fortune with your employees and customers.
     

    stols001

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    OK I really don't but damn you win a LOT.

    Yeah, I know. I have the luck of the Irish it's a good thing I like potatoes. I gave up on entering contests that don't interest me anymore because I get tiered of regifting stuff I won't like.

    IDK why it's a... thing. If I had to count the number of contests I've won, well, I don't think I could actually.

    I have no idea why this is, either. I think God's like rewarding me for putting the firm reins on my runaway shinyitis. LOL.

    Anna
     

    MacTechVpr

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    gerrymi

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    3 of my 4 mods, 2 regs and a mech, I won here. I won a RTA last week or so in a contest here

    WOW!!! No wonder ALL the vaping shops are closing in Pittsburgh...

    (And here I had thought that it is was due to the recently enacted Pennsylvania E-Cigarette Tax of 40%...:shock: )

    ..
     

    MacTechVpr

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    WOW!!! No wonder ALL the vaping shops are closing in Pittsburgh...

    (And here I had thought that it is was due to the recently enacted Pennsylvania E-Cigarette Tax of 40%...:shock: )

    ..

    Well the distinction here is the FL regs criminalize smoking and that portends for more than just a tax. But yeah, any unlawful taking of property and choice is a form of slavery. In the end the % don't matter. They want it all, as we well understand from their flagrant dismissals of process and evidence.

    Good luck. :)
     

    zoiDman

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    Hey I think it is Great that Rep Duncan is paying for Personal Charges he or his family made. But wasn't that what He was supposed to do in the 1st Place? So it Isn't exactly like he is going an Extra Mile or something.

    No one said that there Couldn't have been a Mix Up on Phone Bill. Or maybe on your Cable Bill. But on the List below, how many of these Charges need a Person to be Holding the CC in their Hand when they made them?

    The charges that comprise that repayment are as follows:

    All 2015-2016 Cox Communications totaling $1174.96

    10/14/2015 San Diego Gas & Electric totaling $1268.00

    8/10/2015 Padre Municipal Water District totaling $300.00

    All 2015-2016 Sea World totaling $961.46

    9/28/2015 Star Trader totaling $229.44

    9/28/2015 Royal Street Veranda totaling $58.31

    All 2015-2016 Albertsons totaling $4223.34

    All 2015-2016 Vons totaling $850.65

    All 2015-2016 Trader Joes totaling $603.94

    8/20/2015 Educational Outfitters totaling 207.63

    All 2015-2016 Costco totaling $6142.03

    All 2015-2016 Target totaling $1302.93

    All 2015-2016 Walmart totaling $2616.64

    All 2015-2016 Walgreens totaling $129.21

    All 2015-2016 Rite Aid totaling $670.24

    6/29/2015 CVS totaling $38.75

    All 2015-2016 Dick’s Sporting Goods totaling $434.49

    7/6/2015 The North Face totaling $205.62

    8/6/2015 Sports Authority totaling $144.57

    All 2015 FEIS Productions totaling $230.00

    All 2015-2016 7-Eleven totaling $35.16

    7/7/2015 Bishop Gas & Mini Mart $45.09

    All 2015-2016 Chevron totaling $2,866.93

    9/2/2015 Circle K totaling $57.30

    All 2015-2016 Exxon totaling $519.26

    All 2015 Firenze S.M.N. Self Service totaling $320.24

    7/7/2015 Mill City Trv Cntr totaling $46.82

    7/23/2015 Rubio’s totaling $38.35

    All 2015-2016 Shell Oil Co totaling $2605.01

    3/23/2015 USA Gasoline totaling $44.30

    All 2015 Nordstrom totaling $414.47

    All 2015 Macy’s totaling $486.97

    12/21/2015 Athleisure Inc. totaling $85.32

    11/10/2015 Abercrombie & Fitch totaling $92.88

    All 2015-2016 Nail Spa Plus totaling $111.00

    8/18/2015 Regis totaling $99.53

    5/8/2015 Icing totaling $77.85

    11/30/2015 H&M totaling $134.61

    All 2015-2016 Home Depot totaling $1031.89

    All 2016 Arizona Grand Resort totaling $2891.75

    7/7/2015 The Grove Hotel totaling $1083.63

    7/6/2015 Epleys Boise River Rental totaling $73.14

    3/15/2016 Hotel Del Toy Castle totaling $43.63

    12/15/2015 Hotel del Recreation totaling $100.00

    All 2015 Expedia totaling $1920.11

    11/27/2015 Roma Termini totaling $248.03

    11/30/2015 Casa Italo Napoli Centrale totaling $289.38

    11/25/2015 Ristorante Il Giubileo totaling $213.50

    11/27/2015 Hotel L’Ancora totaling $683.29

    11/27/2015 Il Ritrovo Restaurant totaling $294.53

    11/27/2015 Starhotels Michelangelo totaling $161.65

    11/27/2015 Trattoria Da Cumpa Cosimo totaling $138.25

    11/27/2015 Gioielleria Manetti totaling $216.76

    11/03/2015 United Airlines totaling $15.96

    11/04/2015 United Airlines totaling $246.00

    11/04/2015 United Airlines totaling $105.30

    11/04/2015 United Airlines totaling $105.30

    11/04/2015 United Airlines totaling $403.20

    11/04/2015 United Airlines totaling $105.30

    11/04/2015 United Airlines totaling $403.20

    11/04/2015 United Airlines totaling $403.20

    11/04/2015 United Airlines totaling $105.30

    11/04/2015 United Airlines totaling $1399.20

    11/04/2015 United Airlines totaling $403.20

    11/17/2015 United Airlines totaling $11.97

    11/23/2015 United Airlines totaling $134.00

    11/23/2015 United Airlines totaling $7.99

    11/23/2015 United Airlines totaling $127.00

    11/23/2015 United Airlines totaling $9.99

    11/23/2015 United Airlines totaling $134.00

    11/23/2015 United Airlines totaling $134.00

    11/23/2015 United Airlines totaling $7.99

    11/23/2015 United Airlines totaling $6.99

    11/30/2015 United Airlines totaling $16.99

    11/30/2015 United Airlines totaling $16.99

    11/30/2015 United Airlines totaling $185.10

    11/30/2015 United Airlines totaling $185.10

    11/30/2015 United Airlines totaling $185.10

    11/30/2015 United Airlines totaling $185.10

    1/30/2015 United Airlines totaling $413.00

    2/26/2015 United Airlines totaling $125.00

    11/12/2015 United Airlines totaling $125.00

    11/12/2015 United Airlines totaling $125.00

    7/11/2014 United Airlines totaling $125.00

    7/11/2014 United Airlines totaling $125.00

    All 2015 Jeff Gray DDS totaling $1400.00

    All 2015 Barnes & Noble totaling $525.36

    All 2015-2016 Ki’s Restaurant totaling $1372.75

    Hunter campaign finance gift keeps giving (Updated: Justice Department puts Hunter under criminal investigation)


    I think there just comes a Point when a Reasonable Person says... "No. This doesn't look like a Random Mistake. This looks like a Systemic Effort to use Campaign Funds for Personal Use."

    Looks like a Bad Day for Duncan Hunter....

    Rep. Duncan Hunter, wife indicted on corruption charges in California
     

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