Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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Sustained effort? Yes, that would've been nice. I struggle to remember much in the way of effort at all to level the playing field. Feels like Neville Chamberlain helped negotiate some of our most significant trade agreements. Each step of the way, we've opened and expanded markets, but always given more than we got in return.
Nah, as @Brewdawg1181 already pointed out, this discussion has been entirely civil.Where am I? I think I may have wandered into the outside...
However, it has strayed far from the topic of FDA regulations....
I'd be all for free trade as long as it's free trade. I'm not for Unfair Trade Agreements that are never really free trade. If it's free trade you don't need to negotiate and agreement other than to agree to allow free trade.
I agree. And while I haven’t contributed much to the conversation, other than a set of eyes to read it...I believe it’s impossible to stay dead center on THIS specific topic, without discussing the fringed edges of this political tapestry...
All of this “stuff” (or at least 90%) ties back into the main topic here, because vile or not, our government is a big hulking machine...and all these moving parts affect the others.
So, while tariffs and trade agreements may not be on the nose here, they will play a big part in what eventually happens to these FDA regulations.
And that’s because it all circles back to money...who is getting paid, who is glad-handing who, and what compromises are being made...ultimately at our expense, as vapers.
Sorry...not trying to argue with you.
Just trying to clarify for anyone who may feel like they need to step in and “bring this back on topic”...
(Also sorry for the extreme use of commas)[/user]
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2 Observations:
1. This thread was "ebbing"...there was almost a 1 week lull from the previous post before I posted the article about "Tariffs Battering the US vaping Industry"...
2. The possible effects of BOTH are similar...FDA Regulations => possible increased costs (or elimination) of US vaping products...and...Tariffs => possible increased costs (or elimination) of US vaping products..
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Do you ever get the feeling that vaping is just being lambasted from all sides!? FDA, tariffs and those that want to save us from the harmful vape but still push tobacco!? Ack, always follow the money.
Before we get scolded:
Tariffs on Chinese goods could batter the U.S. vaping industry
Tariffs on Chinese goods could batter the U.S. vaping industry
We as vapers are getting attacked on all sides, it is ridiculous. Just hope everyone stocked up
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Look, we know what side you're on. You made it clear. Time to let it go or go to the OUTSIDE to vent your anger at America.
Fixed this for ya'...
Tariffs => possible increased costs (or elimination) of CHINESE vaping products..
You're right, we've all made it clear. But please, I don't want to have the last word on this one....
We've gotten away with this topic much longer than normal. It's just a matter of time before the plug is pulled so we may as well self-police and pull the plug ourselves.You're right, we've all made it clear. But please, I don't want to have the last word on this one....
Again.
Your politics (and the "etc." ) do not belong in this thread.
This thread is about the Deeming Regulations.
Take your politics to The Outside.
Your politics (and the "etc." ) do not belong in this thread.
This thread is about the Deeming Regulations.
Take your politics to The Outside.
Just saw this on social media:
Sad proof that so many people are unaware of exactly what is happening to the vaping industry.
Unless something has recently changed, which I am not aware of, many people think that just e-liquid is considered a tobacco product...
They clearly don’t know the sad story of Provape closing its doors, and why it happened.
Let this be a reminder to educate your fellow vapers, and also family/friends who don’t vape, but who know what vaping has done for you!
(Also, if something has changed in regards to hardware no longer being considered a tobacco product, please let me know! It’s hard for an “average person” like me to decipher the legal language/gibberish being used to over-regulate this industry.)
Sad proof that so many people are unaware of exactly what is happening to the vaping industry.
Unless something has recently changed, which I am not aware of, many people think that just e-liquid is considered a tobacco product...
They clearly don’t know the sad story of Provape closing its doors, and why it happened.
Let this be a reminder to educate your fellow vapers, and also family/friends who don’t vape, but who know what vaping has done for you!
(Also, if something has changed in regards to hardware no longer being considered a tobacco product, please let me know! It’s hard for an “average person” like me to decipher the legal language/gibberish being used to over-regulate this industry.)
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