Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[ScottP]

I thought Al Jezeera was the "Terrorist News Network". Pretty sure I heard they televised some American servicemen being beheaded several years back. When we were still worried about AlQueda and before the rise of ISIS. I swore then, I'd never watch it. I am also pretty sure they have aired other AlQueda propaganda. Maybe I am wrong, if I am please correct me.

 

[mikepetro]

Me thinks he was being facetious.

 

[NicotineRush]

All good points, but bottom line, it's all about the almighty $$$$$$$.

 

[Eskie]

Journalistic bias is hardly new, it was present in print media since the country was founded. Do you really believe William Hearst was without bias? This isn't a new phenomenon. How many newspapers were regarded as little more than scandal sheets? It's the nature of the beast.

Freedom of the press does not require freedom from bias. I would no more edit Fox News than MSNBC. Both are entitled to their bias. I just know what the bias is, and read/listen/watch accordingly. The problem now is that folks will rely on a single source only and regard it as authoritative. Folks don't want to put in the work of following events. They expect to be spoon fed so they don't have to put in the effort of determining some truth on a topic.

 

[Bronze]

Journalistic bias is hardly new, it was present in print media since the country was founded. Do you really believe William Hearst was without bias? This isn't a new phenomenon. How many newspapers were regarded as little more than scandal sheets? It's the nature of the beast.

Freedom of the press does not require freedom from bias. I would no more edit Fox News than MSNBC. Both are entitled to their bias. I just know what the bias is, and read/listen/watch accordingly. The problem now is that folks will rely on a single source only and regard it as authoritative. Folks don't want to put in the work of following events. They expect to be spoon fed so they don't have to put in the effort of determining some truth on a topic.

My problem is hosts, anchors, and stations who have a bias but pass themselves off as impartial. If someone has a bias then tell us you have a bias. Someone like Limbaugh and Hannity have a bias but they tell you straight out they're conservative. You know their perspective when you turn them on. I have yet to hear Anderson Cooper (and many others) admit to their bias. And news reporting goes beyond just lying. It's what they cover and what they don't cover. Most news outlets don't report news, they select news.

 

[DaveP]

All national news outlets contain slanted opinions, generally those of the owners. If you are a news reader type and don't toe the party line of the owners you end up in a backwater TV station. Then, you are only subject to the opinions of the small town station owners, who will also kick you to the curb for not being a team player.

 

[stols001]

IDK I think it's gotten slightly worse. I listen to enough news so that I know what the husband is arguing with the kid about, so I can mediate. I think I get a fairly "balanced" picture that way, and at least it is laced with (even more) high drama and comedy than the original.

(They really do need minders, I think the husband would vote for a Woman's Period if it were only red, and the kid sort of swings between libertarianism when he is calm, and extreme democracy/frostbite to the blue extremities depending on what he's fired up about in the head of the moment.)

Anna

 

[ScottP]

Journalistic bias is hardly new, it was present in print media since the country was founded. Do you really believe William Hearst was without bias? This isn't a new phenomenon. How many newspapers were regarded as little more than scandal sheets? It's the nature of the beast.

Freedom of the press does not require freedom from bias. I would no more edit Fox News than MSNBC. Both are entitled to their bias. I just know what the bias is, and read/listen/watch accordingly. The problem now is that folks will rely on a single source only and regard it as authoritative. Folks don't want to put in the work of following events. They expect to be spoon fed so they don't have to put in the effort of determining some truth on a topic.

Yes print news always had some slant/bias, that is true. Back then though for every paper that leaned one way there was another that leaned opposite so people got both sides of the story and could draw their own conclusions. As I mentioned though the "independent newspaper" has gone the way of the Dodo and they are all owned now by a handful of conglomerates. So we no longer have any "opposition" voice.

 

[Bronze]

Yes print news always had some slant/bias, that is true.Back then though for every paper that leaned one way there was another that leaned opposite so people got both sides of the story and could draw their own conclusions. As I mentioned though the "independent newspaper" has gone the way of the Dodo and they are all owned now by a handful of conglomerates. So we no longer have any "opposition" voice.

And the large majority of newspapers get their articles from just a few sources...AP, NYT's, WashPo, etc.. and mix in a few local stories from their own reporters.

 

[puffon]

Years ago my wife was a editor at a small town newspaper.
Any story with "anonymous sources" or written by an "anonymous author", was not allowed to be printed.

 

[englishmick]

All good points, but bottom line, it's all about the almighty $$$$$$$.

And they get more clicks from e-cig explodes in man's pocket or Kim K vapes after sex than they get from some boring article about vaping research from a far off country where they still believe in science.

 

[CMD-Ky]

Cronkite and the Roots of Media Bias - Commentary Magazine

An essential element of the mainstream media's myth about its own impartiality is the notion that before Fox News came along we were living in a golden age of broadcast news reporting. The days when national news was the dominion of three networks and a few major newspapers is portrayed as Eden before the fall, an era when partisanship of the kind that is now both familiar and expected was unknown. A key element to this fairy tale is the idea that the journalistic icons of the time, like CBS's Walter Cronkite, were Olympian figures who would never stoop to play favorites or inject ideology into the news.

But this view is totally false. As media news analyst Howard Kurtz writes in the Daily Beast, a new biography of Cronkite by Douglas Brinkley spills the beans on the godlike anchorman's unethical practices, including blatant partisanship that would make the conservative talkers on Fox and the liberals on MSNBC blush.

Walter Cronkite: Liberal Media Icon


"And that's the way it is"

And, to my eternal embarrassment, I believed Cronkite. My only excuse is that I was in my exuberant youth.

 

[MacTechVpr]

And, to my eternal embarrassment, I believed Cronkite. My only excuse is that I was in my exuberant youth.

Agreed…but I hated him uttering the words. Deep down with a sense of dread at hearing him, not understanding why. There were prominent persons and personalities throughout my life that I felt seemed to drive and thrive upon misery, the very telling of it. Often they were cloaked in confident reassurance. Beloved and adored for all the false tears. Some would become Presidents. Later, we knew better. And that's the way it is.

Good luck.

 

[CMD-Ky]

Agreed…but I hated him uttering the words. Deep down with a sense of dread at hearing him, not understanding why. There were prominent persons and personalities throughout my life that I felt seemed to drive and thrive upon misery, the very telling of it. Often they were cloaked in confident reassurance. Beloved and adored for all the false tears. Some would become Presidents. Later, we knew better. And that's the way it is.

Good luck.

In my naivete I watched Uncle Walter every night, 6.30PM - I was there. I thought Eric Savareid was a genius, then I found William F. Buckley, Jr. and Firing Line.

 

[MacTechVpr]

In my naivete I watched Uncle Walter every night, 6.30PM - I was there. I thought Eric Savareid was a genius, then I found William F. Buckley, Jr. and Firing Line.

Just talking about this last night with a few folks…that I haven't watched broadcast television since 1992. Not much truth in it. Or entertainment for that matter. Campaigned informally for the winner that year despite the disingenuous tactics of that Party only to see every liberal value I held dear dishonored within a year. I repeated my error of 1976 to the same result. There is only one political value that matters to me any more and that is the individual.

Good luck.

 

[Philabos]

FDA today, massive media coverage.

FDA chief calls youth use of Juul, other e-cigarettes an ‘epidemic’

 

[MacTechVpr]

FDA today, massive media coverage.

FDA chief calls youth use of Juul, other e-cigarettes an ‘epidemic’

Who would've thought.

Good luck.

 

[stols001]

Here we go... Sigh. You know, at least he didn't call it a pandemic. They have got to be worried if that many teens are like, replacing smoking with vaping though.

COME ON SCOTT JUST LAY OFF.

Also I am a stickler for word usage, and really (although I know it has become a secondary usage) I'd expect someone from the FDA to use the word "epidemic" on a measles attack or radioactive rats or something, not the perfectly normal teenage behavior of teens being teens.

Also I bet 75% rise is FAR less scary than the actual numbers, given that they are NOT RELEASING the actual NUMBERS. Which is not at all unlike the FDA.

Dang it.

Anna

 

[Philabos]

Yes, it will come.
I know a policeman that works at a school.
Believe me, ecigs are the least of their issues. In fact, the subject of ecigs has never even been mentioned by this person.
The other "issues" are already banned and illegal. Not just for under age, except for tobacco.
Expecting the sellers to get this under control is a fantasy and the FDA knows it.
Not really much point discussing it, their course is set. As for harm reduction, he makes clear "too bad for you".

 

[zoiDman]

Gee... Never Saw this one coming now did we?

"...

One factor we’re closely evaluating is the availability of characterizing flavors. We know that the flavors play an important role in driving the youth appeal. And in view of the trends underway, we may take steps to curtail the marketing and selling of flavored products. We’re now actively evaluating how we’d implement such a policy. ..."

"...

In addition, as I noted, we’re seriously reconsidering our compliance dates for the submission of product applications when it is apparent that there’s widespread youth use of the product. We’re especially focused on the flavored e-cigarettes. And we’re seriously considering a policy change that would lead to the immediate removal of these flavored products from the market. ..."

Statement from FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb, M.D., on new steps to address epidemic of youth e-cigarette use