I'm also of the opinion that the game is now on...
AND I've just come off a call planning the most incredible event the e-cig world has ever seen - stay tuned
Now that is what we all need and want to hear.
Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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Now that is what we all need and want to hear.
Anything ecig related - including eliquids - coming through Customs. Many US vendors had stuff locked up for near 6 months. Certain Airports were worse than others - Chicago, NY, West Coast. Some coming directly to Dallas got through.
As far as I know they were seizing the whole ball of wax.
But back then, there wasn't much but cigalikes and maybe cartomizers.
No sense procrastinating. My old Kayfun is about 3 years old. I got two EHPro Kayfun 3.1's for $15.99 each at Hoosier today. That's something I've been putting off until I found a sale. Same for the iStick TC 40W I just happened to find there also. Deeming regulation just put me over the top on the procrastination. I just needed an excuse to jump on it!
Dave, I wish you would consider just 1 18650 mod<your choice> as a safety blanket. While it is highly unlikely Batteries will become UN-purchaseable, Dead Mod replacements may just be.
So your "point" was completely irrelevant to the discussion here. Facilitating IV drug users' habits with tax dollars is not analogous to defending peoples' right to use legal substances, such as nicotine, (or in this case, even PG/VG with food flavoring/s and nothing else,) without interference.
Which comes as a complete shock considering big pharma makes those.
We're experiencing crony capitalism and corruption up close and personal and it really grates on me. I'm always a very optimistic and upbeat person. The last 2 days I've been a grumpy irritable azz.
If the Fed agrees to change the predicate date, the 499 pages plus the 1000s of pages of regulations they are still brewing will all be for nothing.
Cole Act no prayer
HR 2058 less of a prayer.
I just tweeted my congressman though.
Cole Act no prayer
HR 2058 less of a prayer.
I just tweeted my congressman though.
Children ... that's always included. Deeming regs set the legal age to buy vaping products at 18 years old. That's the same as tobacco cigarettes, which are known to cause a list of deadly diseases.
Ecigs have been proven to be several magnitudes safer than tobacco cigarettes. They are so much safer that no one mentions the harm aspect of ecigs.
So, it's the same as the healthcare bill. They said, "We don't know what's in it!". Yes, they've checked it out and found the harm factor to be negligible. Vapers' medical friends such as Dr. Farsalina have checked it out. My doctor and many others have tried to find something dangerous about vaping.
They failed to find anything deadly about vaping because the harm level is lower than breathing the air in a downtown area.
So, why are cigarettes still legal and vaping being attacked? Because we as vapers are no longer funneling money into Big Tobacco at the convenience store! Big Tobacco's minions are bending the ears of government and getting their way. I can hear it now as lobbyists whisper behind closed doors in Washington, "Well, you know that if electronic cigarettes take over the industry we will no longer be able to make our harm payments. You need to do something to kill that fledgling industry."
Big Tobacco has already been through the inspection process and conformed to it. We haven't. They are poised to take over.
Ecigs have been proven to be several magnitudes safer than tobacco cigarettes. They are so much safer that no one mentions the harm aspect of ecigs.
So, it's the same as the healthcare bill. They said, "We don't know what's in it!". Yes, they've checked it out and found the harm factor to be negligible. Vapers' medical friends such as Dr. Farsalina have checked it out. My doctor and many others have tried to find something dangerous about vaping.
They failed to find anything deadly about vaping because the harm level is lower than breathing the air in a downtown area.
So, why are cigarettes still legal and vaping being attacked? Because we as vapers are no longer funneling money into Big Tobacco at the convenience store! Big Tobacco's minions are bending the ears of government and getting their way. I can hear it now as lobbyists whisper behind closed doors in Washington, "Well, you know that if electronic cigarettes take over the industry we will no longer be able to make our harm payments. You need to do something to kill that fledgling industry."
Big Tobacco has already been through the inspection process and conformed to it. We haven't. They are poised to take over.
Yes. And we got through that horrible mess. That was back when hardly any of the public had even heard of vaping or had any idea what an ecig was. Now, we are more than 10 million strong. We will get through this too.
I still have a Provari V2, a Smok Koopor Plus 200W, and a Sigelei Zmax Telescope that all use 18650's. I bought the iStick TC 40W just to be able to vape with temperature control and have a new pocket sized mod to replace my aging iStick 20W. That, and it was on SALE at a good price! Woo Hoo!
Seriously, given my training and experience in electronics I can fix it as long as the chip inside is good. Right now, they are throwaways, but if the need arises ...
"It's for the children!" is always their infuriating strawman trotted out for media consumption. Has anyone else noticed that in the "news" stories from the last couple days, that's all they talk about? "Oh, the FDA is requiring that you be 18 or over to buy e-cigs now. Well, that's good. In other news..." No mention of how this will destroy thousands of small businesses nationwide, or make it far less likely that any smoker will be able to successfully quit actual tobacco products. Lying by omission is just as bad as overt deception, (which they also engage in, btw).
Yep, you have to be 18 to purchase cigarettes, too. How the heck do they get those? The same way we did when we were in high school. They have a friend who buys them.
I'm in the UK and English. I can't vote in US elections
Just throw your vaping gear out now if you plan to vote Democrat. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid were partying like it was 1999 when the initial laws passed.
The GOP is trying to save vaping. Democrats are trying to ban it.
I'm in the UK and English. I can't vote in US elections
From the articles I read, the UK is more sensible about ecigs.
This time, they may have gone one lie too far to get away with it.
Yep, it's extremely easy for most kids to get ahold of tobacco or alcohol, should they desire to. Yet, somehow, not every kid is a smoking drunk. Legislating behavior though regulations like this never works. It comes down to personal responsibility and choices, (with the associated consequences), as it should.
I never even touched a coffin nail until I enlisted in the Air Force. CA has created a truly messed up scenario now; a young man can be drafted into the military and be expected to die for our country at 18, but it's illegal for him to smoke. WTH kind of twisted logic is that?!
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