Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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Actually this is a good idea. I mean, for years we as a community have been saying the vendors by and large are not helping in this fight, so, now is the time to for them to step up or get trampled on and that IS something we as a community can effectively do.
How have tobacco stocks done since the announcement?
Actually, maybe it would be more relevant to look at how they started doing a while back. Anybody have a good estimate how far in advance the final rules would have been leaked to favored investors?
And he didn't write the response...
Just saw this elsewhere..
Shoot... how do I copy an image to a post?
Shoot... how do I copy an image to a post?
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Did anyone else watchthe WhiteCloud Webinar with Dr. Michael Siegel today? Dr. Siegel explained the FDA Deeming very clearly and precisely so that it's easy for anyone to understand exactly what it means. I think he answered about every question in this thread.
When it is put up online, EVERYONE, vaper or not, should watch it. I think even non-vapers would be absolutely astounded at what the FDA is doing. Please share it everywhere you can. I didn't catch where or when it is going up, (a bird flew in the window just when it was mentioned and I got distracted) but I'm sure someone will provide a link.
Dr. Siegel said one of the best things you can do is contact your Congressmen and Senators. Get typing!
When it is put up online, EVERYONE, vaper or not, should watch it. I think even non-vapers would be absolutely astounded at what the FDA is doing. Please share it everywhere you can. I didn't catch where or when it is going up, (a bird flew in the window just when it was mentioned and I got distracted) but I'm sure someone will provide a link.
Dr. Siegel said one of the best things you can do is contact your Congressmen and Senators. Get typing!
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All these reviewers need to pull their heads out of the sand and focus on this. They need to be in full advocacy mode. Rip, ohmboy, Vaping Fagan, Ruby Roo, Pete, etc. Wake up, you're all going to be out of a job very soon unless you focus on saving it. Who cares about the next piece of bling when it's all going to be gone.
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not sure what you are basing this statement on as the FDA is saying otherwise.
just NO, you are incorrect, it was not done or paid for by the citizens/people of Ohio...
the petitions were done and paid for by investors to limit the commercial growth ofto 10 sites owned by those investors who also paid for the ballot campaign, giving those investors exclusive rights to profiting from the growth of
The petitions started here are by individual vapers are nothing like that.
I would encourage you to do the research and learn the facts before spreading misinformation on a public forum.
"FDA is saying otherwise" what exactly are they going to control besides nicotine? We use food flavoring, I'm going to use Capella which is a food flavoring manufacture. VG and PG are available anywhere without prescription that won't change.
First of all when the
did I spread false information? I signed the Whitehouse petition, I didn't sign the {other stuff} petition because of exactly what you just said. I said "the city" created the petition, not vapers. I also voted against issue 2 and informed others not to sing it.
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He did--sorta. It's almost impossible to keep up with everything that's going on now...
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Jeff Stier will be live-tweeting Mitch Zeller's presentation to the TMA tomorrow, Tuesday 10th at 9am EST.
We'll be liveblogging and adding context so do check in tomorrow
Also, at 2pm EST Kevin from VPLive will be hosting Mike Siegel for a call in which you can listen to here: Welcome to The VP Live Network
Shows how effective petitions are in Washington. This is their response to the previous petition:
Following up on your petition on the tobacco regulations:
A few months back, we sent an initial response to a petition you signed on the tobacco deeming regulations. At the time, the rule in question was still under interagency review. But now, there's more to say.
Last week, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration finalized a rule extending its authority to all tobacco products, including e-cigarettes, cigars, hookah tobacco, and pipe tobacco, among others.
This rule will allow the FDA to improve public health and protect future generations from the dangers of tobacco use through a variety of steps, including restricting the sale of these tobacco products to minors nationwide.
Tobacco use poses a significant threat to public health and is the leading cause of preventable deaths in the U.S. today. While there has been a major decline in the use of traditional cigarettes among youth over the past decade, their use of other tobacco products, including e-cigarettes, continues to climb.
In 2015, 3 million middle and high school students were using e-cigarettes.
Prior to FDA’s actions this week, there was a big difference between the rules for the makers of traditional tobacco cigarettes and the rules for these new products.
If you were to purchase a traditional cigarette today, you would be warned about the health risks. You'd also be over the age of 18, because it is illegal to sell cigarettes to minors. These safeguards have greatly contributed to the decline in smoking. But the newer tobacco products haven't had these same safeguards in place.
The new regulations are aimed at making sure all tobacco manufacturers and retailers follow the same rules -- rules to protect children and make sure everyone can make informed decisions about their own health and the products they purchase.
So what do the new provisions say? For starters:
These regulations mark a new chapter in the FDA's efforts to end preventable tobacco-related disease and death, ensure consumers can make informed decisions, and protect the health of America's youth from the dangers of tobacco.
Thanks again for raising your voice on this issue.
-- The We the People Team
Following up on your petition on the tobacco regulations:
A few months back, we sent an initial response to a petition you signed on the tobacco deeming regulations. At the time, the rule in question was still under interagency review. But now, there's more to say.
Last week, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration finalized a rule extending its authority to all tobacco products, including e-cigarettes, cigars, hookah tobacco, and pipe tobacco, among others.
This rule will allow the FDA to improve public health and protect future generations from the dangers of tobacco use through a variety of steps, including restricting the sale of these tobacco products to minors nationwide.
Tobacco use poses a significant threat to public health and is the leading cause of preventable deaths in the U.S. today. While there has been a major decline in the use of traditional cigarettes among youth over the past decade, their use of other tobacco products, including e-cigarettes, continues to climb.
In 2015, 3 million middle and high school students were using e-cigarettes.
Prior to FDA’s actions this week, there was a big difference between the rules for the makers of traditional tobacco cigarettes and the rules for these new products.
If you were to purchase a traditional cigarette today, you would be warned about the health risks. You'd also be over the age of 18, because it is illegal to sell cigarettes to minors. These safeguards have greatly contributed to the decline in smoking. But the newer tobacco products haven't had these same safeguards in place.
The new regulations are aimed at making sure all tobacco manufacturers and retailers follow the same rules -- rules to protect children and make sure everyone can make informed decisions about their own health and the products they purchase.
So what do the new provisions say? For starters:
- Stores will not be allowed to sell e-cigarettes, cigars, and hookah tobacco to people under 18 years of age.
- All sales to those 26 and under will require a photo ID -- just like needing an ID for cigarettes.
- Manufacturers will be required to place health warnings on product packages and ads.
These regulations mark a new chapter in the FDA's efforts to end preventable tobacco-related disease and death, ensure consumers can make informed decisions, and protect the health of America's youth from the dangers of tobacco.
Thanks again for raising your voice on this issue.
-- The We the People Team
I think when enlightening people about the Final Rule and when contacting our representatives it might be worth adding this...
During the time the current regulations were being drafted, FDA Commissioner Margaret Hamburg allegedly used the agency to get a dangerous drug approved, even though it had serious and sometimes deadly side effects, to generate millions of dollars in illegal drug company profits for her husband’s hedge fund company.
Former FDA Commissioner in Massive Conspiracy and Rackeetering Lawsuit | Federal Charges.com 2016
During the time the current regulations were being drafted, FDA Commissioner Margaret Hamburg allegedly used the agency to get a dangerous drug approved, even though it had serious and sometimes deadly side effects, to generate millions of dollars in illegal drug company profits for her husband’s hedge fund company.
Former FDA Commissioner in Massive Conspiracy and Rackeetering Lawsuit | Federal Charges.com 2016
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