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. Kinda like guns and ammo. Just get rid of the ammo then the gun is useless except maybe using it as a hammer or something.

Primers are the nic base for guns and ammo. Without primers, it's all black power weapons - like the 2007 grandfather date for ecigs, it's an mid 1800's grandfather date :laugh:
 

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I didn't read it. That's what Kevin said in the VP Live podcast. I don't know if it's true or not, but he sounded convinced.

Out of gas station e-cigs it probably is the number one seller. No one can really quantify what sells best out of the vape shop fare, only because 1) no one is bothering to ask and 2) there are way too many models for there to be a #1. It's just like the article a week or so ago that stated e-cig were losing popularity, only because the sales are falling at convenience stores.
 

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Well since Elvis didn't really die, and is alive an well drinking margaritas on a beach somewhere with some young tanned naked things, VAPING, maybe this won't be true either ;)
Elvis was NOT an alien. I have a database of all aliens on this planet.
 

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Out of gas station e-cigs it probably is the number one seller. No one can really quantify what sells best out of the vape shop fare, only because 1) no one is bothering to ask and 2) there are way too many models for there to be a #1. It's just like the article a week or so ago that stated e-cig were losing popularity, only because the sales are falling at convenience stores.
Yep and no tally on internet sales of vape stuff.
Might be more Istick 30's sold than Vuse?
 

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I'm not pitting them against each other. I am pointing out the hypocrisy.

At least it gives me an idea of which senator or representative I can POSSIBLY make see some sense. It also gives me a place to start to have a dialog with them.

What Robin said. :D
 

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Cigalikes will, but that's not a problem, since if you get tired of crappy cigalikes that didn't work well back in 2007, then BT will happily sell you tobacco cigarettes. Win Win.

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Cigarettes will become the go to vaping cessation product.
 

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Yep and no tally on internet sales of vape stuff.
Might be more Istick 30's sold than Vuse?

If we were talking generally rather than a specific make and model, I'd go with adjustable eGo style bats, only because they tend to be the starter for people to see if it's going to work, but since there's only about half a dozen manufacturers of those minimum... lol
 
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They have beaten us down so badly, we'll jump at any crumbs they offer.
And that makes me feel like a complete lump of useless flesh.

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Crumbs? Lot of People were Successful in Quitting Smoking using Pre Mid-2014 Hardware. Yourself Included.

And if the Grandfather Date was Mid-2014, wouldn't there be a SE Pathway for some Hardware?
 
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Cigarettes will become the go to vaping cessation product.

Nope, if the excrement makes contact with the rotary blade, spread the word that the official vaping cessation device is Swedish snus, no one is allowed to give BT or BP money. :grr:;)
 

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I hear ya, a youtubber by definition wouldn't be my first go-to. But Phil has reach with his viewers, is well connected with companies, is inspiring/persusaive, and is respected by the community. I can't think of anyone else who checks all the boxes. Just saying...he's sorta perfect :)

Yeah but who wants to put up with "Cranky Phil" for the next couple of years :D
 

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If the FDA has their way, it will be more... "Vaping like it was 1999"
"Oh yeah Babieee"
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I was doing research on tobacco vs. ecig use among youth. The CDC lumps them together when they state that the total overall ecig/tobacco use among youth has remained statistically constant from 2011-2015. So smoking is down but vaping is up among kids. Does anyone have any research on use of nicotine vs flavor only vaping among youth?
I found it on drugabuse.gov: "A significant majority (over 60 percent across all grades) reported vaporizing “just flavoring.”

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