Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

crxess

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But even us vapers aren't together. Lokk at how many members the big vape forums have then look at Lessifer's petition.
Why aren't there over 250,000 signatures on it?

Good Question!
Is the Petition posted on those other Big Forums?
If so, are those post being maintained for attention?
Several of us have linked it on FB, but that place is like a jungle to our ant sized pages.

ECF is my landing page :)
 

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Why haven't we heard anything from Duncan Hunter?

Rep. Duncan Hunter vapes during congressional hearing - CNNPolitics.com

 

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Good Question!
Is the Petition posted on those other Big Forums?
If so, are those post being maintained for attention?
Several of us have linked it on FB, but that place is like a jungle to our ant sized pages.

ECF is my landing page :)
I posted it in the underground and at vapingblips
using my special link so I could know whether I inspired anybody.
At least ten people signed it using my link, no way of knowing whether anybody signed
it on my instigation who didn't use my link.

I don't FB, instagram or twitter..no longer on Linkedin
 

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I posted it in the underground and at vapingblips
using my special link so I could know whether I inspired anybody.
At least ten people signed it using my link, no way of knowing whether anybody signed
it on my instigation who didn't use my link.

I don't FB, instagram or twitter..no longer on Linkedin

Where is the petition on here?
 

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Yea Duane but the medical establishment didn't get together
to fight the insurance cartel or Obummer Care
do you really think most MD's give a crap or want to stop making money from treating cancer patients or are willing to buck the AMA and FDA for the sake of common sense?
I'm thinking along the lines that at least some of the medical community might have an ounce or two of human decency left in them, and perhaps even a conscience. I hold no such illusions for any Federal Death Agency bureaucrats or politicians.
 

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I'm thinking along the lines that at least some of the medical community might have an ounce or two of human decency left in them, and perhaps even a conscience. I hold no such illusions for any Federal Death Agency bureaucrats or politicians.
For sure, we have a couple of vaping MD's right here on this forum..at least one guy I've had a conversation with is not only brilliant
but he's a real nice guy too.

There are exceptions to every rule..But most of the MD's I know including some in my family have no clue about that Hippocratic Oath they took
 

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I'm looking at the "Members Online Now" and it says 1,046 - members:192, guests: 778 robots: 76. Huh? Robots??????

Sorry to be off topic but wondering about the robots?

And BTW - can someone point me to Lessifer's petition? I've not seen that.
The bots are harvesters trying to find addies or doing market research.
The guests are people who googled something and got linked here.
 

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Yes, they vape.

vaping-robot.jpg
I'm looking at the "Members Online Now" and it says 1,046 - members:192, guests: 778 robots: 76. Huh? Robots??????

Sorry to be off topic but wondering about the robots?

And BTW - can someone point me to Lessifer's petition? I've not seen that.
 

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Yes, it is a start - but based on public opinion of vapers in general, it's not looking so good for us, and in my opinion we don't have a whole lot of time to sway the population. And as others have confirmed in this thread, even a lot of the local B&Ms and average vaper have no idea what's going on. Don't get me wrong, I believe what CASAA, AVA, etc. are doing will help - but I think right now the manufacturers and vendors need to band together and file a class action.
Isn't this, the so called 'Industry Lawsuit " all about. . Sevia U.S.A. is a group of Chinese manufacturers and they are funding a major part of this, as are SFATA and AEMSA, and some state trade associations whose members are B&M vendors. Every vendor should contribute to this, even if they can only afford a couple of hundred dollars.

#smokefreeradio "Industry Lawsuit" May 24, 2016

Interview with Azim Chowdhuri from Keller and Heckman starts at min 12.
 
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HazyShades

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Isn't this what the so called 'Industry Lawsuit " is about. . Sevia U.S.A. is a group of Chinese manufacturers and they are funding a major part of this, and so are some state trade associations whose members are B&M vendors.

#smokefreeradio "Industry Lawsuit" May 24, 2016

Interview with Azim Chowdhuri from Keller and Heckman starts at min 12.
Thanks..listening as I write..wish the interview hadn't started with a funny about exploding mod ambulance chasing attorneys..
I'm going to listen to the whole thing only 'cause I've been repeating 'Class Action' like a mantra.
 
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lauragal

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Isn't this, the so called 'Industry Lawsuit " is about. . Sevia U.S.A. is a group of Chinese manufacturers and they are funding a major part of this, as are SFATA and AEMSA, and some state trade associations whose members are B&M vendors.

#smokefreeradio "Industry Lawsuit" May 24, 2016

Interview with Azim Chowdhuri from Keller and Heckman starts at min 12.

Thanks for this - I didn't realize they were filing lawsuits.
 

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