Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

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I don't know. Seems every time they stand up and shoot their political mouths off they hurt their image...in my eyes anyway.
If we were fighting a battle of truth or logic, we would have won a long time ago.
As it stands, though, the celebrities tap into the demographic we most need to reach.

I'll just leave it at that.
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This falls under that point I was trying to make the other day. The Obama administration has become famous for writing very poor executive orders, and regulations. Opposition has won many times against Obama initiatives in the courts and I don't rule out that these Deeming regulations crash and burn too. Obama thinks he can rule by executive fiat. The courts are pushing back and their ammo is Obama's own poorly written orders and regulations...which are based in his arrogance.
 

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Breaking - anyone have any insight as to what "other measures" might exist?

Majority Media | Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs Committee | Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs Committee

If significant, please someone start a separate thread!
Going thru the government websites makes me crazy, but I found a document posted by a law firm to explain to what a congressional investigation means and the steps it takes. Maybe it will help a little bit about what can happen? Page 5 starts explaining the enforcement process.
https://www.mayerbrown.com/files/Pu...c20856/White-Paper-Congressional-Subpoena.pdf
 

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Katya, I believe they are referring to this event from March 2016 and the ad where they are misleading people about the womans collapsed lung which is being discussed more and more in an unflattering light.
Here is the quote:
"and Kristy, who tried e-cigarettes to cut back on cigarettes but didn’t quit smoking and has early COPD and a collapsed lung"
CDC Press Releases
 
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This is another article about Tom Frieden and his "recent" press conference about e-cigarettes. I tried and I can't find any evidence of any recent press conference, or the fact that he's "under fire."

I'm guessing another 'rehash' since the one link here takes you to the same 'blastingnews' story on the other thread. I haven't seen any 'new statements' from this idiot but haven't looked either :- )

Just looked - nothing....other than reposts of the blastingnews story.
 
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Katya, I believe they are referring to this event from March 2016 and the ad where they are misleading people about the womans collapsed lung which is being discussed more and more in an unflattering light.
Here is the quote:
"and Kristy, who tried e-cigarettes to cut back on cigarettes but didn’t quit smoking and has early COPD and a collapsed lung"
CDC Press Releases

Oh, thanks! March 2015, that's better. :)

Now how is he under fire? From whom? From where?

Sorry, not trying to be a pain, I just want to see the fire. :D
 

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Oh, thanks! March 2015, that's better. :)

Now how is he under fire? From whom? From where?

Sorry, not trying to be a pain, I just want to see the fire. :D
Someone say fire? :evil:

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We all want to see the inferno! lol, I don't remember what video clip, it may have been the AEI video where the Dr. talked about the bogus collapsed lung inference as if it was caused by an ecig which is ridiculous but can occur from tobacco. I am just seeing more people on the internet talking about how misleading it is. Give it a couple days as I have just seen so many more comments against the FDA in the last 24 hours I honestly believe many people are just becoming aware of the regulations and overreach. Personally, I will make sure they are all under fire, from me!
 
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Just about a year ago in this very forum
I was ridiculed for pointing out that the:
The Department of Education is armed and has a SWAT team
The Food and Drug Administration is armed and has a SWAT team
The United States Postal Service is armed and has a SWAT team
The Department of Agriculture and is armed has a SWAT team
The National Park Service is armed and has a SWAT team
The Department of the Interior is armed and has a SWAT team
The Department of Commerce is armed and has a SWAT team
United States Department of Agriculture is armed and has a SWAT team

The Department of Energy is armed and has a SWAT team
The Department of Health and Human Services is armed and has a SWAT team
Th Department of Homeland Security is armed and has a SWAT team
The Department of Housing and Urban Development is armed and has a SWAT team
The Department of Justice is armed and has a SWAT team
The Department of Labor is armed and has a SWAT team
The Drug Enforcement Administration is armed and has a SWAT team
The Tennessee Valley Authority is armed and has a SWAT team
The Federal Bureau of Investigation is armed and has a SWAT team
The United States Marshall Service is armed and has a SWAT team
The US Customs and Border Protection is armed and has a SWAT team
The Department of Immigration and Naturalization is armed and has a SWAT team
The Department of State is armed and has a SWAT team
The Department of Transportation is armed and has a SWAT team
The Department of the Treasury is armed and has a SWAT team
The Department of Veterans Affairs is armed and has a SWAT team

Did I miss any? ..maybe the TSA if they're not the same as the Dept of Transportation or included in Homeland (in)Security.

All the police agencies in all the cities and some small towns in the US
are armed, have SWAT team AND are armed with military grade weaponry which in some cases include tanks.

Why do you think? Are they just paranoid or do they have a nefarious reason to be armed to the gills?

He who laughs last laughs best...but I'm not laughing.

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You forgot the weather service/meterologist. And one has to wonder why. Civil disobedience? Martial law.
 
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This may not be Up-to-date. Just like the TTB site maybe not reflective of the FDA Deeming. But here is what TTB say it uses to Define a "Tobacco Product".

See T12

https://www.ttb.gov/tobacco/tobacco-faqs.shtml#t12

section 5702(c) of Title 26 of the United States Code) defines tobacco products as cigars, cigarettes, smokeless tobacco, pipe tobacco and roll-your-own tobacco. Smokeless tobacco means any snuff or chewing tobacco.

That was the definition of tobacco products prior to the deeming, which "deemed" other things as tobacco products as well. Even if the website is out of date, I don't recall reading any regulation that transfers the powers of the TTB to the FDA. I'm wondering if it is clarified somewhere whether or not new tobacco product manufacturers will also have to get a TTB permit?

https://www.ttb.gov/tobacco/manufacturer_products.shtml
 

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Big anything does not like to compete, they got big by buying privilege, they do not know how to compete. They do not invent or innovate. The open system vape market would eat them alive as it is doing right now.



There is no liberal media, there is no conservative media, there is money media and six huge companies own all of it.

Don't forget the CIA. Controls the media and what they report also.
 

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Yes. No speed controls. I guess I need to update my OS, so I can update my firefox browser. Or maybe it's not available for Linux. I'll try to find out, because I would use that feature, a lot.

What speeds does it offer?

0.25, 0.5, normal, 1.25, 1.5, 2.0
 
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