Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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Like grocery stores - cstore depend on volume. Grocery store profits are something like 2-3% - as I'm told....
And some lower profit items bring in a certain customer that will also grab higher profit items because they are there... wasn't it recently that convenient stores were saying they would go out of business if they were no longer allowed to sell cigarettes (as proposed somewhere ? I don't remember) because when someone comes in to buy a pack they grab other stuff too.
I'm not going to reply to your post as I believe that we're getting dangerously
here, and while the mods have been very indulgent so far, I don't want to test the limits of their indulgence. 
I'm not going to reply to your post as I believe that we're getting dangerously
I understand where some mods might think that.
However, this thread is about fighting the establishment that
wants to take our right to vape away, and how we refuse to
sit by while they do that.
My point, is that we have fought the establishment before
and are now much wiser and in a much better position to fight the powers that be.
But yea...
Exactly! I don't know how they can rationalize taxing vaping like they tax tobacco since vaping has not been proven to be harmful (with all indications pointing to the opposite being true)..............and the Royal College recommends - NOT taxed as Tobacco
FDA, SET Standard - 15/30ml bottles
State Fix a Single unit Tax Per Bottle Size
Give those Giving up SMOKING a Freakin Break!!!!
*and Leave the Flipping Flavors alone........they are for the 18/21 and over crowd
Tax Who
When I started smoking ... smokes were 63 cents a pack 
It's crazy how smoking has supported so many who have fed from the tobacco gravy train for so long ... all their data supported a certain % of people smoking forever ... and BP also laughing all the way to the bank.
Then, out of nowhere ... along came a life-saving miracle ... boom, the Vaping Industry quickly fine tunes Vape devices to absolute perfection as tobacco killers.
all while BT, BP, and BG are dragging their feet trying to figure out how to hijack Vaping to save the demise of BT.
What they are trying to do, is one of the biggest crimes ever committed against people's health, on the largest scale ever.
Vaping came on so fast ... they are now desperate
That pretty much sums things up ... this greedy hijacking will be exposed
It's crazy how smoking has supported so many who have fed from the tobacco gravy train for so long ... all their data supported a certain % of people smoking forever ... and BP also laughing all the way to the bank.
Then, out of nowhere ... along came a life-saving miracle ... boom, the Vaping Industry quickly fine tunes Vape devices to absolute perfection as tobacco killers.
all while BT, BP, and BG are dragging their feet trying to figure out how to hijack Vaping to save the demise of BT.
What they are trying to do, is one of the biggest crimes ever committed against people's health, on the largest scale ever.
Vaping came on so fast ... they are now desperate
That pretty much sums things up ... this greedy hijacking will be exposed
Thanks for this. One interesting fact about e-liq they appear to be one of the first to introduce different nic levels in E-Liquid and the first to develop a usb powered e-cig . I guess we have our predict products, at least E-Liquid. Looking at their parent company's website e-cig. com about page
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Beginning in 2003, we were one of the first pioneers in research and development of the electronic cigarette products. From 2004, we were one of the pioneers to manufacture and market worldwide the electronic cigarette products.
Prior to 2005, no E-Liquid products existed in the marketplace...
We were the first to market the E-Liquid products with different density of nicotine and different flavors
In 2005, we secured the registration of the top commercial website domain name: E-Cig.com. Not only we are the first to introduce the first electronic cigarette products to the world, but we were also the first to set up a commercial website for thse products.
In 2007, we developed, manufactured and introduced the first USB-supported eCig products. These products are used without the battery and charger and as with our other products, have the most complete selections and competitive prices
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True, very tight margins. Most multi - store owners are happy with3% reurn.
I pondered this a while back. Menthol flavoring is unique enough to define and maybe categorize but exactly what is classified as a tobacco flavor in e-juice? NET? (extracts). If the FDA wants to limit our choices to just a few flavors (like cigarettes) then who decides what tobacco recipe will be used and what methodology can they use to rationalize that "flavor"?
I propose that somebody at the FDA ran into this tobacco "definition" conundrum in e-juice. It explains why flavor control was quietly removed from the deeming. By this omission they're basically admitting that e-juice and tobacco share no similarities.
Who determines? the tobacco company with the labs and enough bucks to get their flavors approved.
PLANET WIDE What they are trying to do, is one of the biggest crimes ever committed against people's health, on the largest scale ever.
Out Right Bans, De Facto Bans - Countrywide Nicotine Bans(while Tobacco sales Flourish) Extreme Taxation to Drive Smokers Back to the Fold,Bounties for Informing, Imprisonment, and Promoting Vapors as some sort of Leper on society.
That would be California
there's a bill proposed that would limit all tobacco sales to stores that have 60% or more of their sales from tobacco. My dad managed a grocery store for decades, it's a tough business. You make your money in the margins, sometimes selling products for less than cost in the hopes that people will come in and buy other things while they're there. Also, with perishable items, there's a lot of overhead that goes into the dumpster.
No joke - today I drove by a building site in the neighborhood that was being constructed. Guess what the sign said? "Coming soon - Vaper's Lounge!" Seriously? Good luck with that.
Also, while at work last week, I met a vaper who had absolutely no clue about the regs. I filled him in. It's not like he was a newbie, either. He and his wife had box mods, etc and had been vaping for over a year. They had no idea.
Some of us are wiser, some are not. Some have lost their soul and their distrust of the establishment and have themselves become part of the increasingly oppressive establishment they once used to oppose and ridicule.
But yea...
Not surprising they were clueless. The gov't made it clear they were destroying an industry yet according to the the media they passed some regulations to require childproof caps and a few other minor things. Surreal.
Maybe not but at archive. org I see they were selling e-pipes e-cigars and cartridges but no liquid, in August 2006 at e-cig. com. e-liq. com has been around since 2004 but not selling anything e-cig related, not that I can see anyway it was in Japanese and had to translate it. When I got to 2006 it was redirected to e-cig. comNot Buying it.
On Jan 6 2007 they were marketing e-smoking liquid but I can't get to the product page, it must not have been archived
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http://web.archive.org/web/20070106232713/http://www.e-cig.com/en/index.htm
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