Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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LOL..."What does it all mean, Mr. Natural?" asked Flakey Foont.
Ya know what Mr. Natural said.
He-He..I have copies of 'Revolution for the Heck of it' and 'Steal this Book' on both bookcases and digital library.
So regarding your actual comment, Bro.
I'll remind of you something else you'll surely identify with
'The Revolution Begins at Home' and "The Revolution will not be Televised" i'd post the latter but it might be considered off topic.
Lastly, the real answer is what you said.
We need to get organized. In mass to protest
and in "affinity groups" to survive.
(I fully expect monitoring having said the above)
Regards,
Hazy
In that video, in the clip of the tobacco execs, one guy said that cigarettes and nicotine do not meet the classic definition of addictive. The others all said they don't believe nictotine is addictive.
That was different from another clip, that I think was posted recently on ecf, I believe earlier in this thread.
I'll sit on my fingers and bite my tongue lest I keep getting myself in trouble. But I will say that's a spin on semantics and degree.
Regards,
Hazy
Never thought I'd find a Gil Scott-Heron reference here
But to your point about organizing? I wish there was the enthusiasm and yeah, actual joy, in fighting something like there was back then. I believe we as vapers are rising to the fight (the informed ones anyway) but it sure would be nice to have the general public outraged over this affront to everyone's health and medical costs. Unfortunately, the GP is more concerned with Candy Crush, Kardashians and who won American Idol (if that's still broadcast, no idea here).
I have a dumb question, I will admit that I got lost reading all the fda forms, in layman terms will cigarettes be fda approved?
I just really don't know what to say? My 12 yr old sent a email in...he gets it...we get it.. fda gets$$$As long as they are substantially equivalent to cigarettes on the market in 2007.. YES
From the FDA website:
FDA does not “approve” tobacco products, but the Tobacco Control Act provides legal ways for tobacco products to be marketed. If FDA determines a new tobacco product meets the relevant legal requirements, we will issue a written notification permitting the marketing of the new tobacco product.
Once again this says a "new" product. Cigarettes on the market before 2/2007 only have to comply with tax requirements and manufacturing standards, etc.. They don't have to prove the products benefit public health. :/
Never thought I'd find a Gil Scott-Heron reference here
But to your point about organizing? I wish there was the enthusiasm and yeah, actual joy, in fighting something like there was back then. I believe we as vapers are rising to the fight (the informed ones anyway) but it sure would be nice to have the general public outraged over this affront to everyone's health and medical costs. Unfortunately, the GP is more concerned with Candy Crush, Kardashians and who won American Idol (if that's still broadcast, no idea here).
You said it! Personally I think too much of anything is repugnant..
I have no clue who won American Idol...ever. I do watch a similar Italian show where Sister Scuccia got famous.
Scott-Heron? LOl..I hang out in the music thread..music soothes the savage beast... For the reasons you mentioned, I don't expect the non vaping public to ever care or be outraged because vape doesn't DIRECTLY affect them. Sure in the long run it affects everybody,
but there's a thing termed instant gratification that makes most folks
care only about their immediate welfare and disregard others and the big gestalt of relativity.
In a way that's kind of why the "Movement" was so much better organized and enthusiastic. We were worried about going to 'Nam
and having friends and relatives never come back.
It was a life or death situation, the instant grafication of course was staying alive.
Surely we had other more altruistic concerns also.
But vaping...here is when I have to shut my trap or surely be misinterpreted.
I'll just say it isn't an immediate matter of life and death.
smoked those for a while..ehAs long as they are substantially equivalent to cigarettes on the market in 2007.. YES
I wouldn't fight
The first cigarettes I smoked were True. I ripped them off my mom. I just watched an old commercial for them. I've seen it before, but never paid attention to the tar and nicotine levels. 12.8mg tar and 0.7mg nicotine.
My 1rst drag was when I was 3..1rst whole cigarette
I was 6, seem to remember it was a Competidora. Very strong.
When I began smoking regularly at 12 it was Winston
I have loads of coyote tobacco in my backyard. The goats won't eat it, so it grows like crazy. While it is poisonous, it's also what the Native Americans in my area smoked and chewed, so there must be a way to prepare it. I might have to look into this.
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