Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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Hang on to your chair. Two Democrats voted for the Cole/Bishop amendment.
They did. But that amendment is a much "softer" way to agree. IIRC- there was one R who voted no so there's that.
A Dem co-sponsoring HR2058 is committing party treason with the way Congress has been behaving the last 7 years. The biggest bipartisan agreement in Congress is to be partisan at all costs unless you absolutely have to agree with the other side.
Alright. You're right. Nothing will happen, nothing will change, we're all doomed...
Why bother?
Why bother?
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Look into the 80/20 AR concept, if you're not already familiar with it.
People who are eligible to own firearms are allowed to make their own, with no registration or special license.
Under the legal definition, a firearm is actually the frame or "receiver"- everything else on the gun is just parts.
In order to enforce traceability and serializations laws amongst the manufacturers, the government also had to determine a point at which a piece of raw material in-process became a firearm receiver.
So, several years ago, a couple manufacturers (though, technically, they don't even need a manufacturers' license for what they do) started machining raw forgings 80% of the way to the point at which they would be called receivers.
They sell these "80% receivers", along with a lot of fixtures and compelte instruction set on how to get them the remaining 20% there. Totally legally.
A couple of them did get smacked down because they were also offering "CNC rentals" in the same shop. So, basically, you'd pay for your 80% receiver, and a CNC rental fee. They'd let you put it in and take it out of the machine, and show you which buttons to push.
They played with fire. Eventually, the ATF decided that, because one company was taking them to 100%, they were a manufacturer, and shut that down. But you can still buy the kits all day long.
Now, if you sold all the parts, still needing to be soldered together, would it be a finished product, or raw materials. The FDA is going to have to define these limits VERY clearly if they expect to be able to enforce it.
As it's interpreted now, a circuit board, a 510 connector, and an 18650 battery are all finished "tobacco products", but, then, so are wire, and tampons, and dropper bottles, and screwdrivers, and computers, and drill bits, and paper towels, and kitchen sinks, and...
The level of deemed componentry that the FDA claims jurisdiction over now will not stand its first test in court.
Where will the actual line end up? Kitchen sinks? Tampons? Flashed IC's?
They will have to define it in a legally articulate way, and then you know your limit. Produce components right up to that limit, then provide instruction to get it over the finish line.
Someone with your mod building experience can make a very profitable, legal business out of it- so long as you're willing to put up with a bit of legal harassment now and then- and think what you'd be doing for the community.
At the risk of sounding like a one-upper, I got a milk-crate of 0% forgings out of the trash at a company my company bought and shuttered.
I've also got prints.
And a mill and lathe.
And a backhoe.
And a big plot of land.
At the risk of sounding like a one-upper, I got a milk-crate of 0% forgings out of the trash at a company my company bought and shuttered.
I've also got prints.
And a mill and lathe.
And a backhoe.
And a big plot of land.
Close... prints, friend with a mill and lathe, front end loader, big plot of land :- )
Yes, I would. Since the the Executive Branch doesn't answer to the Legislative Branch. And a subpoena is laughable.
Johnson is baiting them. They ain't gonna bite nor will the FDA play this partisan game of "gotcha". Oh, they might throw Johnson a bone by way of a few reams of paper but nothing significant will come of this. At least in our life times.
Not necessarily...it might be that only the extracted nicotine, the active ingredient is regulated. As example I give you Coca Cola™Company, Inc
who according to the Bolivian Press, the 1996 legal importation of {****} leaf by Coca-Cola™ was of 204 tons annually. (used for flavoring after it is "detoxified")
I believe further elaboration will be considered a violation
of ECF rules...but I also give you [Other Stuff] oil, produced from an illicit
(in most states) controlled substance but never-the-less legal.
Regards,
Hazy
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It all starts with the land, doesn't it?
It's like the corner stone of Liberty.
Just like my vapocolypse stash hinges around liquid nic, the rest of my "liberation" hinged around my land.
Land. A good woman. A rifle. A copper still. Liquid nic. Once the bases are covered, you can get on with living.
and one Dem sponsored it...Hang on to your chair. Two Democrats voted for the Cole/Bishop amendment.
Speaking of oil, are they going to regulate the pv that does that? Cuz you could put a tank on it.
Great question. Considering one vapes it...wouldn't that be ironic?
If you're going to vape nicotine it's illegal
if you're going to vape "something else" it isn't..Oy!
Exactly. Without that there is zero chance any Dem would vote yes. Hr2058 has zero chance for bipartisan support unless someone goes rogue. But the GOP controls the House and Senate (for the time being) so there is a sliver of hope but time is not on our side nor is the likelyhood of the bill moving anywhere soon. I simply like the attention it is gaining. We have to hope somehow someway that policymakers can make a difference before it's too late. It might be too late already.
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