Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

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One important thing. Nicopure who manufactures Halo liquid has made a move for all of us not just themselves.

For those who can afford it, show you're support by buying something from them. I'm not related to them in any way. But it would certainly be a noticeable "thankyou".

What better way than getting a massive flood of orders to a company who is really being a champion for vapers and vaping.
 

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Doesn't bother me a bit that you don't serve beer. I am still going to stay long enough to post this ;)

Have you guys seen this? What implications do you think it may have on vape gear? If any at all.

“Harmful and Potentially Harmful Constituents” in Tobacco Products as Used in Section 904(e) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act


Document History

• January 2011 – First edition of guidance was issued.

• August 2016 – The guidance was updated to reflect the issuance of the deeming rule and the current range of tobacco products now subject to our authority. Note that the phrase "including as an aerosol (vapor) or any other emission" was added to the text under paragraph (a) in section III of this document.


http://www.fda.gov/downloads/TobaccoProducts/Labeling/RulesRegulationsGuidance/UCM241352.pdf

I have asked about this also with regards to Feb 8th 2017/Aug 8th 2017 "Health Documents" submissions. But No One seems to know what a "Health Document" is?

Dropbox - VTA Guidance - Deeming Compliance Calendar - FINAL.pdf
 

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Here comes second hand "popcorn lung":eek:

On a more serious note does this include grandfathered cigarettes?
Rgads mike

Not likely. They have too much $$ to be constrained.... but this makes me think they'll be going after all flavors, claiming that the flavors, which we all love, will "initiate" vaping, and everyone knows stainless steel is a tobacco product....

b) causes or has the potential to cause direct or indirect harm to users or non-users of tobacco products. Examples of constituents that have the “potential to cause direct harm” to users or non-users of tobacco products include constituents that are toxicants, carcinogens, and addictive chemicals and chemical compounds. Examples of constituents that have the “potential to cause indirect harm” to users or non-users of tobacco products include constituents that may increase the exposure to the harmful effects of a tobacco product constituent by:

  1. potentially facilitating initiation of the use of tobacco products;

 

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Report: Samsung to Recall Phones After Explosion Claims

Where is the outrage?!? I guess our FDA jokes are true, cell phones ARE tobacco products. Seriously though, vaping isn't explosive, batteries are, by designe they are literally "stored energy". On a side note; I do hope the folks this has happened to are ok.
 

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Can't wait to see what type of self serving, gymnastics law logic the FDA submits today. If my math is correct today is the deadline for the FDA's counter response.

As anyone seen it yet?

I think the date for them to respond by is 9/9 and oral arguments are scheduled for sometime in October.
 

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One important thing. Nicopure who manufactures Halo liquid has made a move for all of us not just themselves.

For those who can afford it, show you're support by buying something from them. I'm not related to them in any way. But it would certainly be a noticeable "thankyou".

What better way than getting a massive flood of orders to a company who is really being a champion for vapers and vaping.
Their eVo juices are very tasty :) I bought some just to help the cause.
 

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I can sum up the FDA's rebuttal for you before it's publicly available. 20 to 30 pages stating "We're right, they're wrong!".
Don't forget the instructions to the judge, "Don't worry your pretty little head about the facts, we know what we're doing."
 

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I can sum up the FDA's rebuttal for you before it's publicly available. 20 to 30 pages stating "We're right, they're wrong!".
Yes, and it will focus on the FDA's touching concern for the cheeldreen, whose use of ENDS is [supposedly] increasing at an "alarming" rate. It almost brings me to tears just thinking about it. It's a winning tactic to portray your opposition as callously indifferent to the welfare of cheeldreen, particularly when your judge is a Jewish mom.*

*Not to suggest that mothers of other faiths, as well as fathers, don't care about the well being of children.
 

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