Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

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My understanding is that technically, yes, they really are breaking the law by selling stuff that wasn't on the market by 8/8/16.

However, it's become quite obvious that the current administration has little-to-no enthusiasm for enforcing most of the Deeming that's already in effect.

So, the product registration deadline being extended to the 12th of this month means nothing for products?
 
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Reading the older post and he’s a fruitloop

Yeppers. A point well known. There was one video that I'll never forget, when everyone figured out it was him, and Robin spit out, "Oh, shutup, Tom Baker!"

One of life's favorite moments.

:lol:

C'mon DP. You *know* this guy has no "quality" GF to steal. Even his dog hates him. Possibly for unmentionable reasons.....

Did I go too far???? I really, really hate this man a LOT.

Anna

Nope. :thumbs:

Was he always this way when he was a member?

Yuh huh. :)
 

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I thought of that too, but @Robino1 usually recognizes him at her first inclination to barf.

That he was Tom Baker crossed my mind almost instantly. I know his voice was on some vaping shows. I can't compare them since I would have to do some considerable digging.

If, and that is a HUGE if, it is indeed TB, that would totally explain why he is doing this.
 

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So, the product registration deadline being extended to the 12th of this month means nothing for products?
Yep. The way I understand it is that the registration extension only applies to products that were on the market prior to 8/8/16 and have not been changed in any way since then. It does not change the fact that no new products may be introduced, and old products may not be altered in any way (not even a change in product name).

But be that as it may, why this :censored: :censored: can't just leave sleeping dogs (the FDA) undisturbed is something I cannot understand.
 

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November 8, 2018 (P MTAs) to August 8, 2021 (SE EX requests, SE reports, and PMTAs for newly regulated combustible tobacco products,
Yes, so the guy is blowing hot air, even if Busardo hasn't filed a PMTA he still has plenty of time
 

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Yep. The way I understand it is that the registration extension only applies to products that were on the market prior to 8/8/16 and have not been changed in any way since then. It does not change the fact that no new products may be introduced, and old products may not be altered in any way (not even a change in product name).

But be that as it may, why this :censored: :censored: can't just leave sleeping dogs (the FDA) undisturbed is something I cannot understand.

Okay nevermind, I am seeing that now. However for paperwork purposes, they only have to be able to show the sale of one prior to that date. And some manufacturers were probably ahead of the game on that one.
 

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My understanding, and all this is totally confusing most of the time, is after August 8th no new products could be manufactured.

A new line of liquids dreamed up and executed AFTER August 8th would therefor be illegal.

That is why there was a rush of products coming out just before the deadline. Kinks were worked out after they had been released.

That part did not get extended since the extensions came AFTER August 8
 

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My understanding, and all this is totally confusing most of the time, is after August 8th no new products could be manufactured.

A new line of liquids dreamed up and executed AFTER August 8th would therefor be illegal.

That is why there was a rush of products coming out just before the deadline. Kinks were worked out after they had been released.

That part did not get extended since the extensions came AFTER August 8

I cant agree with you more about confusing. It seems to change daily so I stopped even trying to keep up! lol..
 

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Mike, please take that sound cloud thing off the post. TOS and all that due to language. ;)

So I played both the what Mike posted and the video that the other Mike posted.

To my untrained ear. I'm thinking yes
But what is the guy's RL name? Otay, you can't tell us 'cause of the rules (if he's a member)
give us a hint.
 

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I think the question is does anyone really care, especially with what else we have going on not just in this country but in others. Probably, even the FDA could care less at this point, they are clearly not ready to address vaping yet (they never gave the follow up talk) and extensions were made. I truly doubt that the FDA is going to FEED this guy by handing out legal summonses to ANYONE breaking the law.

If they were dying to enforce EVERYTHING, then they wouldn't have done the extension. IF the guy has found a LOOPHOLE that they missed, they're probably going to send him a cease and desist letter. Giving huge punishments to two small scale American Citizen vapers for "breakin' da lawh" is just NOT GOING TO HAPPEN..

Everyone probably realizes this except THIS dude, who really is clearly, clearly mentally unbalanced. The FDA is not going to want to touch this with a ten foot pole, I'm almost certain.

The guy still needs a little Life Humiliation, so I'm just going to pray that all his choices and actions rebound on HIM. The nice thing about having a higher power that *I* choose, is, well, SHEIT gets a little vengeful and old Testament once in a while.

I suggest an ECF prayer: Whoever you are, looser, may all the nastiness you wish on other vapers rebound on you. In fact, let's all pray you get committed to a locked mental ward, where, I PROMISE, you will not be allowed to vape, OR smoke, AMEN."


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But what is the guy's RL name? Otay, you can't tell us 'cause of the rules (if he's a member)
give us a hint.

I can't remember what his real name is. I've blocked him on Facebook. He was TB on ECF. He is no longer a member.
 

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