I really don't wish to side-track this thread, but in this case, I can't help it: Who keeps you from buying it in Canada? BP does not have the power to do that, only BG does.
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It's illegal and the FDA is stepping up enforcement. BG serving BP. Much like "it's about the children", claims by BP, the FDA and some Republican lawmakers are that these drugs are unsafe.
From Importing Prescription Drugs Is Illegal. Some Cities, Counties and Schools Are Doing It Anyway.
To top it off, if you try to bring them back they will be seized. Ordering online would be nice, but online pharmacies representing themselves as Canadian are typically fraudulent sites.
America, almost civilized except for where the lobbying dollars are big enough.
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Yep. I use nothing but mechs for exactly those reasons. Mine aren't tubes; they're squonkers, but that's beside the point. The "indestructible" part goes a long way toward making a person FDA-proof.
I hate mechs. I hate basic but regulated to be slightly above mechs. But I have a mech and I won't be getting rid of it just for that very reason.
Not that I really need it because I have a lathe but my electronic abilities would allow me to make a mech.
I would say the worker bees are good. It's the heads of the big corporations that have come in because they've seen the profit potentials of medicine that are evil.
It's not just BP. My hospital is a religious non-profit. My infusions have gone up over $10,000 in 2 years. That's not pharma, that's the "non-profit" hospital, the medicine's wholesale price has stayed the same.
I once figured up the number of rooms they have. If they charge like they do for mine to everyone just that one tiny section of the "non-profit" hospital is billing in the billions. Even what the insurance pays is a healthy profit. My cervical fusion surgery, out-patient with an overnight stay was billed cheaper.
The nurses at the infusion center are great. And I highly doubt they are paid enough to justify the prices.
The only thing I can come up with to justify the prices is that some of it is going to support St Jude.
I'm not even sure if it's the heads of the corporations who are the real evil given the CEOs of the charities against ecigs who suddenly become pro-ecig once they're out of their CEO position. And the same with politicians who do a complete 180° on positions once they're out of office and have no more power.
It's almost as if there's a man behind the curtain with a lot of horseheads threatening these people to make them do evil.
It's almost as if there's a man behind the curtain with a lot of horseheads threatening these people to make them do evil.
Two words: insurance racket
You pay insurance, sure. So does the hospital... Malpractice... Insurance companies got ya coming and going.
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Forget the Lathe and making mechs. Buy some Raw DNA boards ($50/each for the 75C), get a band saw, a drill press, and a router (power tool not network equipment), and/or maybe a Dremel. With that you can turn chunks of 2x4 into beautiful wooden box mods that are fully regulated.
You would still need a 510 connector, a battery sled, some buttons (make or buy), some wire, 8 small magnets, and a soldering iron. All of which can be had quite cheaply.
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Malpractice insurance is not the reason for a $6000 drug to cost $36,000 to administer by IV for 3 hours. The insurance negotiating the price down to $15,000 is part of it because if they billed $15,000 the insurance would want to pay $7000.
One word, GREED.
Have M7x0.5 tap and dies. I can make both ends.
But actually if you're making everything you're not limited to what China decided was standard.
While that is true, I would still use 510, just so all of my current tanks would still work. If I were starting from scratch, I would probably use something bigger.
Maybe. There would probably need to be some modifications to the housing. The keys would be: Can the DNA board fit and be mounted? Can the existing button holes be used directly? If not can everything be positioned so that remote buttons can be used? (The DNA boards do have remote button pin outs) Will the screen fit in the old screen hole (with or without modifications)?
Each DNA board has a datasheet and measured diagrams for them. Below are the ones for the 75C. You may need to use one of the older non-color boards with only 2 control buttons instead of 3 like the Color boards use.
Datasheet:
https://downloads.evolvapor.com/dna75color.pdf
Yep. I use nothing but mechs for exactly those reasons. Mine aren't tubes; they're squonkers, but that's beside the point. The "indestructible" part goes a long way toward making a person FDA-proof.
I only use regulated mods and have been stocking up, but you make an excellent point. The chip sets will fail some day. Maybe time to buy a mech for the shelf and hope I don't need to open the package.
Unless the mod is put together in a way that makes it really difficult to disassemble, you can always convert a broken regulated/VW mod into an unregulated mod. Just rip out the board, and put in a MOSFET so the button won't melt. You already have the rest of the stuff needed. The case, 510, fire button, wiring, etc. You might need to buy a switch to go behind the fire button, depending on how the mod was originally made and you might want something to close up the screen hole but that's about it.
It would be really funny to see a Smok mod retrofitted with a DNA board.
P4U DNA 75 would be what I learned I liked (SS TC).
I may have to take some mods apart and get some measurements.
As long as the width works the rest should be fairly easy even if some welding is involved. Some of the tap-able super puddy could be an answer too.
DNA boards will be around for quite a while, there is a big market OUTSIDE of the USA for them. I would be willing to bet that Evolv sells more of them to China than they do to the US.
While I certainly hope it doesn't come to it because of the FDA, it would be nice to see a resurgence in the modding forum. However I still feel that if they want to control vaping with an iron fist it will be via nic.
Modding isnt what it used to be, especially here. Most of it has moved elsewhere. Even then, not as much demand when so many mass market, flashy, (more/less) full featured, mods are now available for less than a Modder could even buy the parts.
The thing about DNA boards is that they have a lifespan.. sure you can buy a few but your still looking at what? 10-15 years before they are just not very good anymore?
Mechs don't have that problem because of the fact they don't have boards etc. To go bad..
The question will always be - how hard will it be after deeming to get boards into the U.S..
I dont think it will much of an issue. I can take a DNA board and make a damn nice "Hot Knife" for cutting styrofoam (airplane modeling), polyethylene foam, plastics, etc. It would be legal and ethical to market a board for these purposes.
Look at some of the glassware popular in University towns, marketed for "Tobacco Use Only" (yeah.... right). Oh, and BTW, given the legalization trends, that would be a legal application of a TC board.
As long as there is a legal application, then the products will remain available if there is a demand.
And thats without even touching the whole "black market" topic, which obviously thrives for many other products.
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