Thanks for being considerate. But you didn't need to edit them. There was nothing wrong with them.
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Right. There's a difference between discussing the political impact of the use of dodgy THC carts, and comparing recipes for the best pot mixture. There's been a few posts that got close to the line, but mostly it's been working out pretty well. IMO.
Speaking of "crisis"...
This story...sounds almost like she got too much nic. BUT...I can't really tell with the limited information given:
https://nypost.com/2019/09/15/inside-the-deadly-vaping-crisis-thats-gripping-the-nation/
I mean, you can make yourself sick smoking cigs too.....
It's nic.
If they did a story about everyone that ever got sick smoking cigs and weren't used to it....
This story...sounds almost like she got too much nic. BUT...I can't really tell with the limited information given:
https://nypost.com/2019/09/15/inside-the-deadly-vaping-crisis-thats-gripping-the-nation/
I mean, you can make yourself sick smoking cigs too.....
It's nic.
If they did a story about everyone that ever got sick smoking cigs and weren't used to it....
Yep, sounds like the effects of the old time method of making the kid smoke till they are green when caught.
My dad used a box of robust cigars. He was at a loss as I enjoyed them even after puking.
Almost the same thing happened with my step-grandson (ish). But with cigs. He never puked though. Marl Reds. Constitution of an ox I guess.
He smokes now (says he doesn't smoke 'much')
Don't know about you, but I need a vape, folks...
I think of it more as the ability to mention what is being unreported or mis represented, ie that cannabis carts tainted with Vit E being the real culprit, while MSM and the alphabet agencies are just saying quit vaping now...they are doing a huge dis service and undermining public health, and to discuss the matter properly, the real facts have to able to be discussed. It really doesn't matter where you fall on your convictions regarding this subject, the opposition has put it squarely in the limelight. Doesn't matter what you feel is right or wrong, it IS the current playing field on this subject for the time being, be that as it is.
i am
not american
more of a moderate than a conservative or liberal
but
they said similar last time. Brexit too (and one here that no one cares about)
I agree. That is why I blieve we vapers can make an impact in the election. But then I look at the possible opponents for Trump...wow. They're all pretty slim pick'ms. Lesser of two evils once again.
When you have the choice / illusion of the lesser of two evils, one can choose not to participate in the sham. Let the rest of them duke it out and hunker down to weather the storm, with your preps and stockpiles in order...
I'm beginning to think that "they" know that too. Some are just in the last throws of the "Grab $$ game", but the writing is on the wall.I'm here to tell you that as the 1%,
get ready.
And to stay on topic, it dovetails into national healthcare. I don't care if you look at it from just a sociological-cost perspective from 100,000 feet up, or from a particular political ideology down here on planet Earth, there's a dramatic sociological cost to combustibles. Go back to that ~500,000 smoking related deaths per year. I suppose we have similar costs to things like alcoholism. Some countries even more (Russia has had 'programs' for such I'm sure, as do we).
So at some point, these issues get addressed. Organically? Cosmically? Divine intervention or just collective consciousness, doesn't really matter to us sheeple, in a sense. We're caught up in it.
If you have a system that is moving all the money to the 1%, the 99% will catch on in time.
And if combustibles are a huge social cost, society as a whole will do something.
But then we have the trade-off. The "interaction" between laws/money/structure and the end-goal...removing combustibles and replacing them. "Smoke free future".
In a sense, and I'm going out on a limb here, it's not all that bad. THAT writing is on the wall too. Us traditional vapers are sacrificial lambs in a sense, but if those born today have a smoke-free future in the future new-environment, and they're stuck with highly controlled BT products that are deliberately kind of a PITA as a deterrent... well, society as a whole gets better in the end. Abstractly.
Look at how "they" made cigs actually WORSE not better! They're more-deadly now. They have that FSC crap that makes them burn wrong. They're vilified constantly. Instead of trying to develop safer cigs, they went in the exact opposite direction, and decided that they would provide a product but also discourage future use and expand into things like providing nic to the NRT people.
So we're "screwed" in a traditional-vape sense, but society might win in the end. And remember, even for ECF, the goal has always been harm reduction. Maybe getting too stuck on form is a mistake if tobacco cigs remain. So we have to make a deal with the devil, and turn the market over to them so they can make their "smoke free future".
I've wondered similar things about the Big-Oil stuff, and new energy tech. To get them off the oil (eventually) we may have to turn all the other $$$ producing tech to them so they'll switch over. Not working real well so far...
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FBI is coming after you, please stay where you are, put that dangerous device aside, don't move and wait.
Oh, it's not 2020 yet, too early for that to happen
I do try to post everything I post on CASAA's FB and Twitter in the ECF CASAA subforum.
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And to stay on topic, it dovetails into national healthcare. I don't care if you look at it from just a sociological-cost perspective from 100,000 feet up, or from a particular political ideology down here on planet Earth, there's a dramatic sociological cost to combustibles. Go back to that ~500,000 smoking related deaths per year. I suppose we have similar costs to things like alcoholism. Some countries even more (Russia has had 'programs' for such I'm sure, as do we).
If you have a system that is moving all the money to the 1%, the 99% will catch on in time.
And if combustibles are a huge social cost, society as a whole will do something.
Look at how "they" made cigs actually WORSE not better! They're more-deadly now. They have that FSC crap that makes them burn wrong. They're vilified constantly. Instead of trying to develop safer cigs, they went in the exact opposite direction, and decided that they would provide a product but also discourage future use and expand into things like providing nic to the NRT people.
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