Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[Zazie]

zazie lol
Have you not seen pageant kids from Texas? Everything’s bigger in Texas from the hair, to the smiles to the hospitality . It’s the South, baby!

Not specifically, but pageant kids in general make me sad and their mothers frighten me.

That said, just to clear things up, I don't actually believe that all Texans, regardless of sex or age, resemble scraggly bewhiskered old-timey gunmen.

All Mainers, however, DO look like this:

 

[CMD-Ky]

Responding to bombastinator's comment:


"PLEASE Californians, STAY in California. Do not move to my beloved Texas and try to mold it into the blank-hole that you made of your own state." ...which is part of what happened to Austin.

from google:
How many people move to Austin from California?
While many from across the U.S. are relocating to Austin, TX, those moving from California are by far the most notable. Between 2010 and 2014, Austin saw an increase of approximately 15,000 new residents from California alone. That's roughly 3,000 per year.May 21, 2019

buy your stock in "Pooper Scooper" the storm is headed your way.

 

[Kent C]

buy your stock in "Pooper Scooper" the storm is headed your way.

Been on the toolbelt for about a decade around here.

 

[Rossum]

If the FDA is releasing the flavor ban this week as rumored, the United States Vaping Association- USVA is ready. Status update from our principal attorney Jerad Najvar.

I hate to say this, but this man's body language and mannerisms do not exude much confidence in his case.

 

[Blitzdonlife]

Responding to bombastinator's comment:


"PLEASE Californians, STAY in California. Do not move to my beloved Texas and try to mold it into the blank-hole that you made of your own state." ...which is part of what happened to Austin.

from google:
How many people move to Austin from California?
While many from across the U.S. are relocating to Austin, TX, those moving from California are by far the most notable. Between 2010 and 2014, Austin saw an increase of approximately 15,000 new residents from California alone. That's roughly 3,000 per year.May 21, 2019

Austin's motto is "Keep Austin weird." I've been there on a regular basis because of work, and I'd say the motto is in effect Diversity is alive and well in Austin, TX.

 

[CMD-Ky]

Austin's motto is "Keep Austin weird." I've been there on a regular basis because of work, and I'd say the motto is in effect Diversity is alive and well in Austin, TX.

It is our strength I have been told.

 

[Horselady154]

Austin's motto is "Keep Austin weird." I've been there on a regular basis because of work, and I'd say the motto is in effect Diversity is alive and well in Austin, TX.

If by diversity, you mean a place where the capitol of the state, high tech firms galore, university students and artistic types all converge and appreciate each other, yup, we are that. And we have no interest, or didn't, in being like any other city. Things were/are done differently here. It's changing though.

 

[mikepetro]

And another reply:
Though I give the staffers credit, it was not verbatim the same as the last one.



Dear Mr. Petro,


Thank you for contacting me regarding the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) regulation of tobacco products. I appreciate your continued feedback on this important issue.

The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act of 2009 gave the FDA authority to regulate the manufacture, distribution, and marketing of tobacco products. For example, the Tobacco Control Act restricts tobacco marketing and sales to minors, ensures that tobacco companies provide FDA with detailed manufacturing information about their products, allows biannual inspections of tobacco manufacturing and processing facilities, and requires smokeless tobacco products and advertisements to contain product warnings. Additionally, the law requires FDA to create a regulatory framework for newer tobacco products entering the market since February 15, 2007.

On November 15, 2018, then FDA Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb announced a number of steps the FDA is taking to combat youth tobacco use. The agency intends to limit the sale of flavored cigarettes and most flavored e-cigarettes to age-restricted retail settings and websites with heightened age verification practices and combat the marketing of e-cigarettes to children. The FDA is still developing the proposed rule regarding menthol cigarettes. When the Administration releases the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking, there will be a 30 to 60 day window for members of the public to submit comments via regulations.gov for the FDA to consider prior to finalizing the rule.

Again, thank you for contacting me about this issue and please know that I am committed to finding the best regulatory structure available to balance protecting public health with the concerns of all stakeholders.

Sincerely,
MARK R. WARNER
United States Senator

 

[bombastinator]

Buy your stock in "Pooper Scooper" the storm is headed your way.

A statistical certainty. Insult the entirety of the most populous state in the union followed by the largest city in the largest state in the union.

it like the answer to the logic puzzle “how can I insult the most people at once? Rules: You can’t insult an entire country and you can’t insult any similar entity twice”

 

[bombastinator]

And another reply:
Though I give the staffers credit, it was not verbatim the same as the last one.



Dear Mr. Petro,


Thank you for contacting me regarding the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) regulation of tobacco products. I appreciate your continued feedback on this important issue.

The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act of 2009 gave the FDA authority to regulate the manufacture, distribution, and marketing of tobacco products. For example, the Tobacco Control Act restricts tobacco marketing and sales to minors, ensures that tobacco companies provide FDA with detailed manufacturing information about their products, allows biannual inspections of tobacco manufacturing and processing facilities, and requires smokeless tobacco products and advertisements to contain product warnings. Additionally, the law requires FDA to create a regulatory framework for newer tobacco products entering the market since February 15, 2007.

On November 15, 2018, then FDA Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb announced a number of steps the FDA is taking to combat youth tobacco use. The agency intends to limit the sale of flavored cigarettes and most flavored e-cigarettes to age-restricted retail settings and websites with heightened age verification practices and combat the marketing of e-cigarettes to children. The FDA is still developing the proposed rule regarding menthol cigarettes. When the Administration releases the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking, there will be a 30 to 60 day window for members of the public to submit comments via regulations.gov for the FDA to consider prior to finalizing the rule.

Again, thank you for contacting me about this issue and please know that I am committed to finding the best regulatory structure available to balance protecting public health with the concerns of all stakeholders.

Sincerely,
MARK R. WARNER
United States Senator

He did do that. He later limited it to only convenience stores and non vape shops though.

that date pops out at me. When did Gottleib leave office?

 

[stols001]

My sis lived in Austin for a long time. She loved it. I enjoyed visiting. too.

Right after Texas is Arizona (for Californians.)

Tucson is being swarmed right as our house goes on the market (cross your fingers for me please, as like, we need to make enough o f a profit to buy land.)

It is starting to look like the kind of home I would buy if I were a Californian. The kitchen is UNBELIEVABLE I hate the fact Mr. A only does these things for "sale" and it has the largest permanent free standing labyrinth in all of pima co, perhaps more. We get a TOIN of flyovers because Mr. A (who is like a freaking BEAVER when it comes to stonework as a kid hid dammed up a river so he and his friends could skate on it, and like, the Department of land an agriculture actually came out and made him UNDAMN it and an he has all these symbols and siddrals. LOL he was using rock from the land so I bought him a couple tons for Christmas he was SO HAPPY.

He says he's gonna lay down a banner with our realtors name on it. I kind of told him to uh, talk to the realtor about that.

We considered registering it, but like, IDK you do that and then people come bug you.

Anna

 

[LoveVanilla]

Looks like Juul has been delivered the news. As expected,

Juul is discontinuing mint flavor

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[Astron]

As we expected,

Juul is discontinuing mint flavor
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Looks like they've been delivered the news.

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I didn’t realize this was the bellwether.

I have been scouring the forums and twitter for more info.

 

[zoiDman]

Looks like Juul has been delivered the news. As expected,

Juul is discontinuing mint flavor

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Seeing that JUUL is in a PMTA Life or Death battle, I'm Not Surprised.

 

[LoveVanilla]

Yeah, would expect Juul to be delivered bad news before a public announcement. Now only speculating (who the hell really knows): But think this says we will see an announcement tomorrow. And my guess is that mass market ecig's will be limited to tobacco and menthol only. Vape shops and [real] age-verified online sales will be exempt. Fingers crossed.

 

[LoveVanilla]

Seeing that JUUL is in a PMTA Life or Death battle, I'm Not Surprised.

Yeah, thinking they were previously told they would absolutely not be approved unless...

 

[zoiDman]

.. my guess is that mass market ecig's will be limited to tobacco and menthol only. Vape shops and [real] age-verified online sales will be exempt. Fingers crossed.

I'd say the First Part is about as sure as the Patriots at home beating Miami.

The Second part? I think the Odds Line in Vegas is about a Toss Up.

 

[zoiDman]

Yeah, thinking they were previously told they would absolutely not be approved unless...

If I was JUUL, I'd consider putting in a PMTA soon. Verses waiting for the Drop Dead Date.

 

[Astron]

Yeah, would expect Juul to were delivered bad news before public announcement. Now only speculating (who the hell really knows): But think this says we will see an announcement tomorrow. And my guess is that mass market ecig's will be limited to tobacco and menthol only. Vape shops and [real] age-verified online sales will be exempt. Fingers crossed.

I 100% pray and hope you are correct in your hopes for the latter, but I don’t see any evidence that vape shops will be exempt. The way I interpreted yesterday’s news was that instead of a total wipeout of *all* flavors (mint, menthol, and tobacco included), vape shops may be exempt from a menthol and tobacco flavor ban. JUUL removing Mint is the evidence I need that a worst-case scenario is planned.

I hate being the angel of gloom & doom really I do.

 

[Katya]

I 100% pray and hope you are correct in your hopes for the latter, but I don’t see any evidence that vape shops will be exempt.

I have to admit that, after watching Dimitris' video that @Horselady154 posted in her thread, I'm much less optimistic than I was after reading yesterday's article...

Dimitris just poured cold water on our optimism on this. If you listen to what KellyAnn said, she is completely clueless about what vaping nicotine is and is wrong about who is over what.

link

He suggests we keep calling the White House switchboard twice a day.

Oh well, I guess we'll find out soon enough.