Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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I wasn't sure where to put this, so I'm just going to leave it here. Amanda Wheeler's twitter page has been taken private, so I tried to find out why and found this. The video is worth watching.
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Works I kinda understand where Grim's comin from in protecting the premise but…
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Any government big enough to tell you what to vape is big enough to take it away.
I once quit vaping promising myself I would never allow any institution to decide for me what I put in my body or how. Advanced vaping finally allowed us that potential. Individual ingenuity and the vape lounge/community model got us there. Now look where we are.
Who knows? Mebe the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em' reform from within dream may ultimately prevail. But no workey for me cause I can't unsee experience.
Thanks for the update. Hadn't seen it.
But good luck all.
Those guys.
I'll blow straight up PG/VG in their face all day long.
I'll blow straight up PG/VG in their face all day long.
I guess I'm a realist; you have to play with the cards you're dealt. IMO, big companies like PMI are going to take over the vaping industry no matter what we think about it, so if a few vape activists can try to affect the situation from the inside, I'm all for it.
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Amanda Wheeler stepped down as president of the American Vapor Manufacturers Association, but something tells me that she still had a hand in this.
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CTP Director Brian King Doesn't Say Much You Haven't Already Heard
Today, Brian King, head of the FDA’s tobacco center, answered direct questions from vaping industry advocates for the first time.
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I'd agree, as logical and pragmatic. However, our leaders are certifiable and so inclined call the wild cards after the hands are dealt. Then they'd have us believe that it's always been so.
But they all promised us there would never be another Prohibition, didn't they?
This would seem to call for quite another brand of practicality.
Good luck all.
Got my preventative CT scan this morning. Results are in. I'm benign. No lung cancer. A touch of emphysema and fatty liver but nothing serious or unusual. So good results.
Again, as ex smokers these low dose CT scans can be useful. They're done annually and will catch lung cancer in the early stages. Another useful thing about getting this scan now is I establish a baseline that can be used to compare with future scans. They can measure progressions to determine if there is anything to be concerned about. My insurance paid for all of it. Falls under "Preventative" benefits. Might want to check your insurance. Otherwise I think it's better part of $2K. Maybe less if I didn't have the mandatory consultation for the first visit. IMO, well worth doing. I'll post this on some other threads for people interested.
Again, as ex smokers these low dose CT scans can be useful. They're done annually and will catch lung cancer in the early stages. Another useful thing about getting this scan now is I establish a baseline that can be used to compare with future scans. They can measure progressions to determine if there is anything to be concerned about. My insurance paid for all of it. Falls under "Preventative" benefits. Might want to check your insurance. Otherwise I think it's better part of $2K. Maybe less if I didn't have the mandatory consultation for the first visit. IMO, well worth doing. I'll post this on some other threads for people interested.
Good to Hear that your Scan came back clean. A CT-Scan with IV Contrast coupled with Cancer Markers Blood Tests is a Powerful One-Two Diagnostic Tool. And some Amazing Technology packed into a 6 Foot Tube.
I had 4 done in 2022. And will probably have 1 More done this year.
You are absolutely right about the Expense. They can be Very Pricey. And that Entire "It's Covered by your Insurance" can be Misleading. Because your Insurance may Covered it, up to $1,800.00, but the Imaging Center could bill the Procedure for $2,200.00.
Which leave you on the Hook for a cool 4 Bills.
Yes, each person has to investigate their own insurance provisions. They vary quite a bit. I contacted my insurance company (BCBSNC) prior and got clearance. It fell into "Preventative Benefits". She told me at most it would cost me is a $94 co-pay. Turns out I didn't pay that either (yet). And also yes, blood tests are very powerful. I'm amazed the stories blood tests tell. They're endless and an excellent preventative measure. My blood tests last couple times revealed I have high red blood cell markers (esp, Hematocrit). After further testing my Hemotolgist cleared it as "of no health concern". But he checked for a couple "manageable" blood disorders (mutations aka as cancer) that come up more often than not when high red blood cell markers are present...those that are connected to carbon monoxide (smoking). Again, I was fortunate. But the point is looking at these things before they blossom out of control is crucial. So for us ex smokers, Low Dose CT scans and blood tests are two of the best things we can do for ourselves.
Back to the CT scan. It's low dose radiation. Took three minutes and no tube. Just a "ring" that slides over your chest. About the easiest dang thing I've done. The hardest part was standing back up. Had to have the guy give me a hand up. That he offered before I asked tells my I'm far from the only one who struggled with that.
Anyway, here is the contraption. Looks like a giant toilet seat standing on edge.
FDA has issued its first fines $$:
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FDA Files Civil Money Penalty Complaints Against Four E-Cigarette Product Manufacturers
The FDA filed CMP complaints against four tobacco product manufacturers for manufacturing and selling e-liquids without marketing authorization.
I totally forgot about AVM's meeting with FDA's CTP Director Brian King yesterday afternoon. If you're interested in what he had to say, you can check it out on Vaping360.
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CTP Director Brian King Doesn't Say Much You Haven't Already Heard
Today, Brian King, head of the FDA’s tobacco center, answered direct questions from vaping industry advocates for the first time.
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No surprises there. Typical government lip service.I totally forgot about AVM's meeting with FDA's CTP Director Brian King yesterday afternoon. If you're interested in what he had to say, you can check it out on Vaping360.
CTP Director Brian King Doesn't Say Much You Haven't Already Heard
Today, Brian King, head of the FDA’s tobacco center, answered direct questions from vaping industry advocates for the first time.
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The Republicans in Congress are going to investigate the incompetense at FDA's Center For Tobacco Products. I'm not sure how much they can do about it, but it could be fun to watch.
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House Oversight Committee Will Probe FDA Tobacco Regulation
The House Oversight Committee has announced an investigation into the FDA’s much-criticized Center for Tobacco Products.
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The Republicans in Congress are going to investigate the incompetense at FDA's Center For Tobacco Products. I'm not sure how much they can do about it, but it could be fun to watch.
House Oversight Committee Will Probe FDA Tobacco Regulation
The House Oversight Committee has announced an investigation into the FDA’s much-criticized Center for Tobacco Products.
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Thank you for keeping us informed.
Phillip Morris is pushing the formation of a congressional tobacco harm reduction caucus. It would have been nice if they would have done that 6 or 8 years ago, but of course back then they didn't want to stop the FDA from destroying the independent vaping industry(their competition). Now they can lobby for laws and regulations that benefit them.
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What Is the Congressional Tobacco Harm Reduction Caucus?
The new congressional tobacco harm reduction caucus is supported by Philip Morris International, which sells smoke-free products in the U.S.
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Just saw a segment on BBC World News about vaping in the UK. A Gov representative said they consider vaping to be an important piece of their strategy to help people get off smoking but they are concerned about the level of vaping among kids, which did appear to be rather high in terms of the % of teens who are regular vapers. We've seen teen vaping numbers in the US and they were mostly bogus. The segment I saw didn't provide any details on how the UK numbers were put together.
One brilliant strategy they are considering to address this dilemma is raising the cost of vapes to price out the kids. More tax money, hmm.
One brilliant strategy they are considering to address this dilemma is raising the cost of vapes to price out the kids. More tax money, hmm.
At least they seem to understand the value of THR. They're planning to give away a million vape kits to help reduce smoking. A lot of people in our government are still trying to convince everyone that vaping is as dangerous as smoking.
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Call me cynical, but I think with what's being done THR isn't on their mind.
Profiteering is...
As the responsibility is with retailers and parents when it comes to underage vaping, and we've seen this all before with the tobacco industry and underage smoking.
I ran across this on a conservative news site.
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