% dissatisfied with ecigs

[VapingRulz]

I've seen three people try the e-cig and go back to analogs. One of them tried one of those mall e-cigs, which explains a lot. Another started with Greencigs and they were too weak to keep her off analogs, and the third is an older relative who is intimidated, I suspect.

I keep trying...

 

[The Man]

I agree that this forum has been a big help in transitioning away from death sticks.

Regarding % dissatisfied... it would take a clinical study with compensated participants to track balk rate. A good idea, though.

 

[Cicatrize]

JMO but ecigs/pvs are not as easy as cigarettes. They do require some work on the part of the vaper. You can't just open the pack and light up. You have to make sure you have good attys, charged batteries, carts and juice. You must plan ahead and some people can't do that.

A lot of people think this way, and I used to as well, but nowadays, I have to disagree. It all depends on the unit you're using.

For me, I don't like the traditional pen-style, 801, 901, 510, etc. because they require constant attention. It was because of this that I almost gave up on vaping. Then I found the Janty/Joye Stick mod...and life was beautiful.

USB on the unit means I never have to remove the battery until it dies or doesn't hold a charge for long. With proper cart filling, the atty doesn't need to be cleaned any more often than every 3 days or so. The carts are 1.2ml which is plenty to get me through my entire work day, and most of the day at home.

I've found that this is actually quicker than smoking analogs because I can just pick it up and vape, or have it plugged in at work via USB and vape passthrough that way, whereas analogs require me to put my coat and hat on, go outside, get out my cigs, light it up, freeze my a** off, and have a miserable time killing myself.

 

[jova3]

i transitioned off analogs to pv which took me about 2-3 months. mainly because i made the common newbie error and bought an pv that most resembled an analog. so finding the proper pv for my needs took a while, and then i got the prodigy, it works great, i was smoke free for about 3 weeks.
then coming back from iraq, packing, losing parts, no where to charge batteries, all led to me going back to analogs. then i moved to el paso and when i was unpacking i found my prodigy and a couple of bottles of smoke juice, figured it was about time to give this another go. i could only find one atty so i ordered some more, but yeah the transittion is hard and going back to analogs is really easy.

 

[beecee]

I thought I would give up my pv after only using it a week or two. I didn't think I would like different flavors and the crap involved with maintaining a PC... but that's not the case. It's working out for me and I don't see myself giving up anytime soon. It's just so nummy compared to analogs. I still do occasionally light up an analog but analogs are just nasty tasting to me now....I have a feeling I won't need a lighter soon.

thank gawd they can't sell flavored cigarettes....

 

[jova3]

thank gawd they can't sell flavored cigarettes....

since when? nat sherman sold vanilla flavored cigs. and then newports are menthol.

 

[beecee]

I was talking more like cherry, chocolate and stuff like that. Well, I know the guy here in az smoke shop told me they aren't allowed. Something about kids and blah blah. So if I'm wrong I'm wrong.

 

[kr808d1]

obama signed a bill to ban flavored cigs and cigars , saying the flavors were drawing in kids to smoking , menthol was not banned . back to the subject at hand , the only way i would go back to cigs is if i could not get the flavor i like . i have been burned on flavored carts just tasting like crap and not like the juice flavor with the same name . not giving up that easy though , i just got empty carts and fill them with bottled liquid i know is good . my regular shops are running out of that flavor , i have tried others to see if i would like them but no dice yet . i really only like tobacco flavors , but i am afraid to base an opinion off flavored carts due to some carts not tasting like they supposed to . i can say as well that vaping is a little odd / weird to me right now , but i like it more than smoking . i do like not feeling like crap from not smoking but still there is something i miss about smoking , i guess would be that cigs are easier to deal with , light and puff , can even hang cigs out my mouth which i really have not found an effective way to do that with an auto battery yet . it just seems to be a little work involved with vaping , but hell laziness does not get anyone anywhere . i am here to give vaping a good run , i have a little bit of money tied into it and i am not about wasting and i think that helps me stay hooked to it . i do have one pack of smoked stashed back in case of emergency , i have had them for 2 weeks now . i am here to give it a try and do my best with it ...

 

[ChipCurtis]

obama signed a bill to ban flavored cigs and cigars

The bill only covered flavored cigs, not flavored cigars. You can still get flavored cigars in most convenience stores, I see them all the time.

I guess Obama didn't want to piss off the Wall Street cigar-and-martini crowd, eh?

 

[antism]

Took me a while to get off analogs. Even went back to them for a couple months. Hadn't completely gotten off of them until recently.

The main reason I went back was ease of use. Running off of standard batts was a constant hassle with having to charge up every few hours. If I was out for the night, I really didn't want to have to carry a man purse around with extra batts and a charger.

It took a bit, but I found Mods are the way to go. Better batt life, and better performance. I don't think I'll ever go back to analogs.

 

[scylla]

As a new user I can feel the reluctance to continue using an e-cig. I have been using one for about a week and have run into problems with how much a p.i.t.a. it can be.

First you have to choose a pv that fits your lifestyle, then you have to deal with all the low quality parts and juice that are out there.

I chose as my first kit a vapor king from vapor4life. I have found that it's a real chore to keep filling the cartos up and the batts charged. Plus I hate the need to draw hard for a good hit.

But I'm not giving up. Yesterday I ordered a Tornado from Wicked so batt life shouldn't be a irritant.
I just hope that the "draw" necessary for good hitting isn't as much.

Gonna try dripping as well. I don't have the patience to fill cartos. I mean jeez, 18 to 20 drops in a hole that size? Not for me.


My dream vaping device would be the Juice Box from carlos49. Without the clunky design and 2 month back order.

 

[newb]

As a new user I can feel the reluctance to continue using an e-cig. I have been using one for about a week and have run into problems with how much a p.i.t.a. it can be.

First you have to choose a pv that fits your lifestyle, then you have to deal with all the low quality parts and juice that are out there.

I chose as my first kit a vapor king from vapor4life. I have found that it's a real chore to keep filling the cartos up and the batts charged. Plus I hate the need to draw hard for a good hit.

But I'm not giving up. Yesterday I ordered a Tornado from Wicked so batt life shouldn't be a irritant.
I just hope that the "draw" necessary for good hitting isn't as much.

Gonna try dripping as well. I don't have the patience to fill cartos. I mean jeez, 18 to 20 drops in a hole that size? Not for me.


My dream vaping device would be the Juice Box from carlos49. Without the clunky design and 2 month back order.

Im in the same boat... But the only difference is that my PV's have lighter draws so even if they are long draws its not that bad and I dont mind really... But refilling is a PITA and the flavor and performance is not as good as out of the box cartoz are..

What is a tornado?

 

[Kent C]

Im in the same boat... But the only difference is that my PV's have lighter draws so even if they are long draws its not that bad and I dont mind really... But refilling is a PITA and the flavor and performance is not as good as out of the box cartoz are..

What is a tornado?

Wicked-TORNADO E-NI or Electronic Nicotine Inhalator Black.

Just got one myself - 6-6.5 hour battery life after 5 recharges - so that is pretty consistent. medium to heavy vaping. Small. I have one set up with their mega atty/mega cart and get over an hour on refills. If considering, get the 'fast usb charger'. Same as Janty eGo... although not sure if they have those chargers in yet.

 

[Cicatrize]

Gonna try dripping as well. I don't have the patience to fill cartos. I mean jeez, 18 to 20 drops in a hole that size? Not for me.

If you use a syringe, you can fill from the bottom up in less than 3 seconds.

 

[sund79]

moving on to the juicebox.. as i said in the post where i'm selling my 901s, if i ever have to see another cart mod spring straw....errrrr...

 

[m00nshake]

I work at a call center and was the first one here to give e-cigs a go, and I've been vaping since September 2009. There have been three other people who got interested in e-cigs after seeing me vaping and asking me about it. Out of those three, only one still vapes e-cigs regularly.

The first person, a guy, decided to give e-cigs a shot. He got a 510 kit and some of JC Original Smoke Juice. He is Arabic, and he said that the smoke juice tasted like some of the pipe tobacco he remembers from his childhood. But e-cigs have not replaced analogs for him. He said he will use e-cigs solely when he cannot smoke analogs, such as on an airplane or in a bar. When I asked him why e-cigs have not replaced analogs for him, his answer was: "the battery is killing me. I want a battery that lasts 24 hours." When I told him battery mods, he told me that he didn't want something as large as the Silver Bullet-mod that I use. He said it looks strange.

The second person, a girl, who no longer works here, also decided to give e-cigs a shot, but she also switched back to analogs, for another reason entirely. In a small town like this, you can't go to the store and buy a bottle of e-liquid or a spare atomizer. You have to have the money to invest to stock up on this stuff before you run into issues. So this girl had problems with that, she either ran out of the stuff and couldn't wait for it to arrive in the mail or she simply didn't want to wait for her payday to go out and buy 'in advance'.

I have also spoken to others who will not switch because they are devout Newport smokers and as anyone who has ever smoked a Newport knows, it's very difficult to replace with any other menthol cigarette, let alone a menthol e-liquid. Of course, just like anybody else, if a person wants to make the change to e-cigs, they need to be willing to give it a chance and realize that it's going to take some getting used to.

Anyway, this is what I have observed from others who have tried e-cigs and failed.

 

[techtony]

I hate filling carts as well so I dip with contact lense cases; dip, plug cart on and then vape 5-6 real good puffs. It works for me.

 

[TWalker]

I wish someone would do a poll to find out how many people have tried, and then given up on, e-cigs - and their reasons for giving up. Is it because of equipment issues, or is it lack of satisfaction from the process of vaping itself as opposed to smoking analogs? Do people feel analogs are "better" - if so, why? I'm wondering why some people move easily from analogs to ecigs and others cannot do so.

Don't wish...do a poll, thats what the forum is for.

As far as people thinking vaping is too much trouble? Ha. What is buying lighters, dumping ashtrays, looking for a place to toss your butts without being seen?, putting out a half used used cigarette? smelling like a dogs ...? standing out in cold and the rain? Replacing curtains, burnt clothes, not being able to breathe? trying to look helathy/youthful when your prematurely aged?

I gladly and quickly learned to vape cheaply, get supplies and as a heavy vaper I vape less than $1 in juice per day.

 

[DC2]

Of course, just like anybody else, if a person wants to make the change to e-cigs, they need to be willing to give it a chance and realize that it's going to take some getting used to.

This is very true for many, although there are also many that quit smoking using electronic cigarettes that didn't even intend to do so. That is quite a mystery, really, and I think if you are a "fiddler" then you may have good luck quitting without even trying. And if you are not a "fiddler" then you may need to be ready to quit.

And then of course, if you are not a "fiddler" and you are not necessarily ready to quit, then a cartomizer model may work for you, or it may not. I guess I am saying I wish I could understand the underlying dynamics of who has no problem, who has problems, and everything in between.

 

[DVap]

I guess I am saying I wish I could understand the underlying dynamics of who has no problem, who has problems, and everything in between.

There's been quite a bit of discussion elsewhere in the forums about why some folks don't do well with e-cigs. A lot of it is pretty heavy reading, but for some, it comes down to e-cigs containing plenty of nicotine but none of the other tobacco components, some of which, some folks seem to need along with the nicotine.

I've got some blog posts that distill the main points of the discussions, fairly heavy reading in some of them, but many find the information enlightening.