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Some juices, especially citrus flavors are reverse steepers. Meaning the older they get the more flavor they lose. Or the flavor may change.
Dripper notwithstanding, is the sucralose bottled mislabelled and has ethyl maltol instead?
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Try steeping in a glass bottle. Citrus oils are very volatile.
I'm not sure I get what you mean. Yes, citrus flavors are volatile. I have always used glass bottles to steep. How does this pertain to reverse steeping? Citrus flavor molecules infuse quicker due to their volatility. Once they're done the flavor starts getting flat. Thus reverse steeping, glass or not.
When I first started diy'ing I subscribed to this thread thinking it was the holy grail for a mixing foundation...and then when I started eliminating crappy flavoring and found premium top-shelf flavorings/nicotine and got better mixing at the right percentages, practically everything in this thread became irrelevant. A good flavoring, mixed right doesn't need any hocus pocus in my lil ole humble opinion...same with the steeping obsession...
For my likes there's Inawera, FlavourArt & some Hangsen flavors with FA & INW being the most consistent across the board. I really like the VT nic, I could really tell a difference in my mixes...I found that I could cut way back on my percentages and I wasn't having to over-compensate in flavor percentages just trying to cover up the nasty metallic taste of the nic I was using.
Since I've cut back from 10-12% in flavoring to 3-6% I've seen a major improvement in the taste of my mixes and this is what I especially like about FA & INW concentrates. There is no need for me to have to use some so-called flavor enhancer with a premium flavor that is good on it's own...I certainly wouldn't want to ruin a perfectly good flavor by adding acv/vape wizard/smooth or any of those masking agents that mute a flavor that's awful from the start...
Since I've cut back from 10-12% in flavoring to 3-6% I've seen a major improvement in the taste of my mixes and this is what I especially like about FA & INW concentrates. There is no need for me to have to use some so-called flavor enhancer with a premium flavor that is good on it's own...I certainly wouldn't want to ruin a perfectly good flavor by adding acv/vape wizard/smooth or any of those masking agents that mute a flavor that's awful from the start...
I totally agree with what Blueser is saying. Additives such as EM, sweetener, vineger, sours etc are for the most part masks that hide a mixes true potential. They are often over used and used for the wrong purpose. If you start with good NIC and good flavoring such as what blueser has already metioned there is no need for additives. If you must use additives know what they are and how they react and know what the proper amounts to use are.
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OMG... I... Finally did it... 700+ posts later, I have finally finished this thread! I would really like to thank all of you, some of you more than others but to not single anyone out I will simply leave that at that. What an adventure this has been I must say, lol. I really do appreciate all the time many of you have genuinely taken to help others to have a better and more informed vaping experience. There are A LOT of really great tips in here, not to mention a lot of potentially money and time saving techniques. Again, thank you all so much for helping in my DIY adventures!
Congratulations!!! If more people would take the time to read some of these threads, they would be a LOT better off. You are one in a thousand!
Now, get ready for the 100 question exam tomorrow at 9am, same place.
As is...
Continued...Flavor Add-on's Flavor Killers (EM, VW, BW, MTS, ACV, ect)
....just because you read it on the internet doesn't mean it's necessarily true...
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....just because you read it on the internet doesn't mean it's necessarily true...
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Very correct.
Also just because I can make some great stuff with some of those doesn't mean another can.
I've heard that some folks can even make vapable juice with TPA's Kona, but I'll never be able to figure that out.
Congratulations!!! If more people would take the time to read some of these threads, they would be a LOT better off. You are one in a thousand!
Now, get ready for the 100 question exam tomorrow at 9am, same place.
LOL! I'm definitely ready! Are you?
What is the magic steeping degree temperature?
A. 120F
B. 130F
C. 135F
D. 150F
Who thinks almost every idea in this thread is a cockamamie idea?
A. we2rcool
B. Blueser
C. dannyv45
D. VegasDealer
What is/are the funniest post(s) in this entire thread?
A. #632
B. #184
C. #654
D. All of the Above
Where is VegasDealer originally from?
A. Florida
B. New York
C. Iowa
D. Denmark
Who likes to steep their juices in their pajama pockets at night?
A. ukeman
B. Exchaner
C. Hoosier
D. partyannimal
First person to get all five right, gets a like!
WOW!!! You are MOST impressive!!!!! I knew you were from our South.
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