Back then we did not have SE v. FDA staring us right down the throat Shreck with a Federal Court Judge about to rule on the fate of the E-cig.
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Do We Need To Stock Up Because Of The Ban?
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Back then we did not have SE v. FDA staring us right down the throat Shreck with a Federal Court Judge about to rule on the fate of the E-cig.
Sun
Is it going to do any good to stock up? I mean you can only stock so much, eventually your stock is going to run out whether it be atomizers or juice.
Now, if there is a chance that supplies will only go dry for a period of time, then at some point the e-cig gets approved and the supplies become available again, in that case I could see stocking up to get through the dry spell.
Now, if there is a chance that supplies will only go dry for a period of time, then at some point the e-cig gets approved and the supplies become available again, in that case I could see stocking up to get through the dry spell.
Belushi--Many have calculated their consumption and stocked up for 2 years. Within 2 years, we should be out of the woods.
Sun
I think that any type of ban, is going to take alot longer, than what u guys think, especially since, the FDA is in court with two of the companies. The court proceedings would need to be finished, before they can ban anything. Even then, there is a thing called appeals. after all that, what can they ban? Batteries, can't be banned, its a battery. Atomizers are a vaporizer, they can be used to vaporize different liquids, not just EJUICE. Basically, the only thing, they could ban is the juice. Even then, most people have started making there own. D.I.Y. This all sounds legitamite. I was told this by some legal reps, merchant account reps. etc. I think it will be at least a year or two, really, That's just my gut. Hopefully, The FDA will have there "studies" done correctly by then. Since, it only counts when they test it. I guess all the other test done in different countries, by other scientists, dont count. Once they find a way to tax, or get the peice of the pie, they think they deserve, all will be fine, just more expensive, that's all. Then again, the orginization could be more corrupt then we really think, and have one up their sleeve. but, let's hope they do honest studies, and go by the laws, and all will be well.
Interesting, so what are you guys doing, like are you getting the highest strength juice you can find then planning on cutting it with PG from other sources or are you stocking up on the strength you vape.
Just been vaping for about a couple months, but based on off-the-cuff memory seems like I am doing right around 30 ml a month, atomizers maybe 1-2 a month.
Just been vaping for about a couple months, but based on off-the-cuff memory seems like I am doing right around 30 ml a month, atomizers maybe 1-2 a month.
Vaporrich--try to understand the Court process. SE and NJOY requested a Preliminary Injunction to the FDA's embarko, and halting the sale and marketing of the e-cig. That means "during the pendency of the case" --and not waiting till the case goes to trial. The final hearing on this is set for August 17th. Should Judge Leon, rule against them, which is more then just likely as obvioulsy he does not see the "irreputable harm" or he would have ruled way back in April when the case was filed for SE and NJOY, then the embargo powers of the FDA, as well as their ability to halt all sales and marketing would be in full force and effect during the entire trial (since this is a case sounding in equity there is no jury--the Judge is the trier of fact).
So do not count on any long delay. Judge Leon has been holding a ruling in this case since April giving ample time to give notice to Suppliers and all concerned. You will see a ruling on this motion before mid September.
Sun
You must be an extremely light vaper if you are only doing one ml a day. You are definitely not typical.
30 ml of juice, 1-2 atomizers. Ah, never mind, I see what you are saying. Ya that does seem light, may be it is a-bit more.
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"Stocking up" is a bad stradegy if you ask me. Eventually your carts will run dry, your batteries will die, your atomizers will fail, and you'll be left with nothing more than sucking on a boiling teapot to get any sort of vape. THEN where will you turn?
Personally, I'm taking the low key approach. I've got my ducks in a row. I'm not stockpiling enough for a nuclear bunker, but I do have a plan to fight the war.
I haven't been stockpiling. I've been planing.
Personally, I'm taking the low key approach. I've got my ducks in a row. I'm not stockpiling enough for a nuclear bunker, but I do have a plan to fight the war.
I haven't been stockpiling. I've been planing.
"Stocking up" is a bad stradegy if you ask me. Eventually your carts will run dry, your batteries will die, your atomizers will fail, and you'll be left with nothing more than sucking on a boiling teapot to get any sort of vape. THEN where will you turn?
Personally, I'm taking the low key approach. I've got my ducks in a row. I'm not stockpiling enough for a nuclear bunker, but I do have a plan to fight the war.
I haven't been stockpiling. I've been planing.
Big Jim--you need a MOD so you can get batteries anywhere and e-liquid so you do not have to worry about carts. The one and only part that you can not replicate (we are still working on it) is those atomizers. Atomizers do not go bad Jim---Like "Old Sparky"--they are there for you.
But knowing you Big Jim--you will be taking Lear Jets to China weekly for your e-cig needs. I heard you found a Guy who will meet you at the Great Wall and drop those atomizers down to you. LOL You are one of a kind Big Jim---carry on!!
Sun
Mikey, fist of all, stock up on what you can afford and try not to worry. I have been buying extra unflavored 24 or 36 each month in addition to my regular flavors. I would think there would be no way to stop suppliers from selling 0 nic "flavors". You would just have to add your nicotine.
Sorry about the Chrons, the situation with your health improvement is the kind of story that needs to be heard. Have you written to your Senator, Representative or congressperson? If not, I urge you to do so, make it know that your health has improved from quitting cigs and using this device.
Best wishes and I am so happy that you are healthier and feel better. Keep it up!!!
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Innovapor has great deals on 5 packs of batteries and atomizers.
And they also have coupon codes to save even more money.
I have stocked up. Worst case scenario and a ban occurs, I'm covered from probably 1 1/2 to 2 years. No ban, I've prepaid for my habit for the next two years.
To avoid battery issues, I have several mods that use "regular" batteries (i.e., not those specific to a particular e-cig model). I've stocked up on atomizers, but if I can't get those, then I'll use my Iolite, which doesn't require atomizers or batteries.
And if I run out of juice, I'll make my own . . . and if I *need* the nicotine, then I can always vaporize tobacco in my Iolite. Not ideal, but much, much better than smoking it.
As for going underground, I don't know . . . I suppose if it's a choice between that and analogs, I'll go underground.
To avoid battery issues, I have several mods that use "regular" batteries (i.e., not those specific to a particular e-cig model). I've stocked up on atomizers, but if I can't get those, then I'll use my Iolite, which doesn't require atomizers or batteries.
And if I run out of juice, I'll make my own . . . and if I *need* the nicotine, then I can always vaporize tobacco in my Iolite. Not ideal, but much, much better than smoking it.
As for going underground, I don't know . . . I suppose if it's a choice between that and analogs, I'll go underground.
I hope that I have the money to be able to stock up soon. I really hope that all of the mechanical pieces last longer than some of the estimates that I have heard, or that they make them a bit more long lasting.
I am not stockpiling. If they become illegal I will keep using them till I can no longer get them and then I will go buy a hookah.
HAHA. I wish that were the case.
only thing is I'm not very good at making any mods. Actually I wouldn't even know where to begin. I have about 10 atomizers and 10 batteries, 3 wall chargers and a USB one, and a USB passthrough, along with over 100 blank carts and about 100 pre-filled ones, and enough juice to last me for a bit.
I am actually quite pleased with the DSE103 performance. Been vaping for 3 months now and had only one battery die (it actually fell apart in my hands) and 2 atomizers die (the SE one died in 3 weeks, Ol' Sparky lasted almost 2 months). I've been getting replacement parts faster than my equiptment dies!
Maybe I should just open up as a distributor with all thats being accumulated. 
My stock(901) !: 12 batts , 10 attys, (12) 30ml e liquid from med/ low to nc liquids and blanks(50), from ruyan direct and smokey treats (1) car charger, (2) wall chargers,PG and VG 16oz. & 4oz. and a museum quality Blu cig (lol), just in case the "s....t" hits the fan !!
I am not sure if I am stocking up on purpose...but with cigs here at close to $10/pack and Chinese juice at about $12/35 mil the math seems easy to do..I am sure I will buy e juice or cigs...not bad to get it now. I don't think the cigs will get cheaper.
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If I were u I would go with more attys than more batteries for stocking and remember that you will always be able to get a mod for a battery. IMHO
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