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v1John

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I' d like that winston taste. Where'd you get it or do you makei it?

zelda, it's their dekang peg winston that I bought! (e-liquid cn, where we get their CE2's )

Their pg and peg is good at vapor also, but the vg still is even better for massive clouds, I mix just a tad of their vg for massive, off the scale, plumes and clouds, and still get the good flavor of their winston peg.
 

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Badkolo, that's a tempting offer, but I have some that should be here in the next day or so.

Does anyone know of a US vendor that's going to start carrying an assortment of these? So far all I've seen is the regular 510 and 808D E2s. So far I'm really happy with the plastic ones that I've been using, some of these are going on two weeks of use with no problems at all, so if the ceramic are better they are going to rock. I'd like to get some of the XL to play with but mostly want to get them in stainless steel. I peel the labels off of the ones that I use now and would like to get them pre-peeled.

Has anyone tried the 510s on a Volcano Magma battery? I have a metric .... load of them and would like to use them. I think they're actually SLBs but not sure and the plastic E2s don't work on the majority of them.
 

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On the way of liquids and the ceramic ce2,

I have also been trying to find a good menthol, so I finally got some of their pg menthol, pg newport, and pg doublemint. They taste good, but I got these 3 in zero nicotine because I wanted to learn their basic, pure, flavor. I made a mistake though. I get zero throat hit with the 0 nicotine.

The good thing is that after vaping the zero nic. for about about 20 minutes, I went back to my winston peg, and I immediately once again starting to wonder if there was a real cigarette hidden in the ceramic XL :lol:, it even has a real and distinct th! it became more noticeable after 20 minutes of the 0-nic:)
 

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I don't think mine have primer, but if they do, it's wonderful. I smoke ...err I meant: I vape winston peg, and it tastes like smoke so much that it's scary sometimes. At first I kept wondering if a real cigarette was hiding in the xl.

Ok, well raise your hands people, if you want some samples!

Raise your hands!

:lol:

/me raises his hand
 

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On the way of liquids and the ceramic ce2,

I have also been trying to find a good menthol, so I finally got some of their pg menthol, pg newport, and pg doublemint. They taste good, but I got these 3 in zero nicotine because I wanted to learn their basic, pure, flavor. I made a mistake though. I get zero throat hit with the 0 nicotine.

The good thing is that after vaping the zero nic. for about about 20 minutes, I went back to my winston peg, and I immediately once again starting to wonder if there was a real cigarette hidden in the ceramic XL :lol:, it even has a real and distinct th! it became more noticeable after 20 minutes of the 0-nic:)

v1John have you tried TV Tobacco/Menthol? It's a little dirty atty-wise but very tasty. If you like it you can order the 48mg and mix it down with his doubler. The net cost per 30ml is about 7 bucks or so.
 

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pm your addy to badkolo people!



I hope he still has a few left, lol

Yankee802, you should be getting some soon though, right? Did your order ship yet finally?


NO! :( I was told Sept 5th. I didn't get anything in PEG, and would love to try your Winston PEG, if that is what you're talking about. :)
 

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Badkolo, that's a tempting offer, but I have some that should be here in the next day or so.

Does anyone know of a US vendor that's going to start carrying an assortment of these? So far all I've seen is the regular 510 and 808D E2s. So far I'm really happy with the plastic ones that I've been using, some of these are going on two weeks of use with no problems at all, so if the ceramic are better they are going to rock. I'd like to get some of the XL to play with but mostly want to get them in stainless steel. I peel the labels off of the ones that I use now and would like to get them pre-peeled.

Has anyone tried the 510s on a Volcano Magma battery? I have a metric .... load of them and would like to use them. I think they're actually SLBs but not sure and the plastic E2s don't work on the majority of them.

I don't know of a US vendor that's listed the XL's yet, but keep your eye on COV and MadVapes.
 

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Hey Bad.... Have you seen the 510's leaking from the base much?Got my shipment in and took 3 dif mods with me to work. 808 reg on a Wet Box (which surprisingly turned into my favorite vape) A "puck" with an XL 808 (which turns out to be to "hot") and a 510 reg on a 5 v Nico stick, (uses an 18500).
The 510 was great! Little issue wicking as I tend to burn out cartos the way I vape. REEEL heavy vap for short periods. Usually when I have to do paperwork on the 'puter. Used to burn a pack of analogs in 2/3 hrs doing schedules and inventory.
Issue is the 510 will leak at the base but only when I fill it. Tried it through the little cap and just down the sides with cap off.Have you seen a difference between boxes? (Got 6 boxes of 510's.)
Overall I'm in luv with these things.Tremendous vaper and great TH.Think all the issues I've had are logistics. Just gettin the feel for the throttle.

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Do you remember the "post" # for those pictures you had of the cart cut in half? Better... Do you have an XL cut in half? Need to see how long to make the needle on a bottom feeder. The WetBox pumps the juice right into the cup which can flood it pretty easy.
 
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badkolo

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Hey Bad.... Have you seen the 510's leaking from the base much?Got my shipment in and took 3 dif mods with me to work. 808 reg on a Wet Box (which surprisingly turned into my favorite vape) A "puck" with an XL 808 (which turns out to be to "hot") and a 510 reg on a 5 v Nico stick, (uses an 18500).
The 510 was great! Little issue wicking as I tend to burn out cartos the way I vape. REEEL heavy vap for short periods. Usually when I have to do paperwork on the 'puter. Used to burn a pack of analogs in 2/3 hrs doing schedules and inventory.
Issue is the 510 will leak at the base but only when I fill it. Tried it through the little cap and just down the sides with cap off.Have you seen a difference between boxes? (Got 6 boxes of 510's.)
Overall I'm in luv with these things.Tremendous vaper and great TH.Think all the issues I've had are logistics. Just gettin the feel for the throttle.

P.S.
Do you remember the "post" # for those pictures you had of the cart cut in half? Better... Do you have an XL cut in half? Need to see how long to make the needle on a bottom feeder. The WetBox pumps the juice right into the cup which can flood it pretty easy.

i tested 12 now cut in half, i then added juice and left half on my desk and half on paper for 20 hours now, i checked repeatedly and had no leaking, i pressed against the bottom and nothing on my finger, i pushed down on the cup and nothing, i moved around the stem and no leak.

Thats out of 12 and isnt the biggest sample base to go by but im trying.
After some pointers form members in this thread and from microcig said it seems the leaking occurs when they are full of juice up to or pass the cup bottom caused by 2 things .

the wick might be wicking to well on some when not in use cause some spatter to fall from the coil area down the air tube.

But that doesnt explain the bigger leaks, so then the next thing to look at and fix was where the ceramic cup sits on the air flow stem, maybe some type of suction or whatever its called is causing juice up the inside of the base of the cup and down the airflow tube. this is being fixed NOW by them.
yes every pack could vary, they will deplete the stock for each revision, to costly not too but they removed the plastic e2 revision and glue completly form being sold.

some packs have primer but many dont, some have leaks but many dont.

im not hearing many connector problems this time around so thats good and the wicking is improved and now we can choose the ohm that best suits us.


I WONDER IF A SILICONE VERSION OF THIS would work, the right sized ring like this to sits right around the cupbetween the outside of the ceramic cup and the wall of the e2.
 
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rbonie

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i tested 12 now cut in half,

But that doesnt explain the bigger leaks, so then the next thing to look at and fix was where the ceramic cup sits on the air flow stem, maybe some type of suction or whatever its called is causing juice up the inside of the base of the cup and down the airflow tube. this is

im not hearing many connector problems this time around so thats good and the wicking is improved and now we can choose the ohm that best suits us.
Think you nailed the issue. When I fill I almost always get some in the cup.. Prolly goin down the air flow tube and leaking out at the base. As I said it only seemed to happen when I filled cart.
Also (ALERT!! Dummy question comming!!) Whats the best ohm value for 5 volts? Most of my mods use 18500 bats. Though with the way the wetbox tastes I may have to remake some in 3.7
P.S.
finding eliquid cn 's VG a little too thick. Is the PEG any thinner?
 
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badkolo

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Think you nailed the issue. When I fill I almost always get some in the cup.. Prolly goin down the air flow tube and leaking out at the base. As I said it only seemed to happen when I filled cart.
Also (ALERT!! Dummy question comming!!) Whats the best ohm value for 5 volts? Most of my mods use 18500 bats. Though with the way the wetbox tastes I may have to remake some in 3.7

3.0 ohm e2 works great at 5volt , now they have 3.0 to 3.2 ohm.

i think they should try to take the middle thinner clear oring they provide, widen the whole completly so that it can slide around the cup almost like the inner cup does now. or just thin down the inner plug they use now.

thats neither here nor there at the moment and right now the focus is the primeless wick and the leak. that will bring these to where they should be for me at least.
 
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3.0 ohm e2 works great at 5volt , now they have 3.0 to 3.2 ohm.

i think they should try to take the middle thinner clear oring they provide, widen the whole completly so that it can slide around the cup almost like the inner cup does now. or just thin down the inner plug they use now.

thats neither here nor there at the moment and right now the focus is the primeless wick and the leak. that will bring these to where they should be for me at least.
Hey Buddy.. In case no one else here says it, Thanks for all your efforts!. I think Vaping has turned a corner. This system promises to fix the major issues we've had.

  1. Atty's that die over night
  2. Cartomizers that fade out or just roll over
  3. Vaping that give no satisfaction.
These things all vape like the "JuiceBox" was supposed to.
Just hope they hold up like everybody seems to think
:toast:
 

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I think the ohms of the Element are still a tad too low on these KR808D-1 XL 3.7v ceramic carto's.

If I vape for longer than 1.5 seconds, the juice tastes burnt.
I'm using:
* GG Slim currently giving 3.79v
* V4L KR808D-1 Auto Battery which has about 40% charge (less than 3.7v I imagine).

I tested the ohms of eight carto's:

3.1
3.1
3.1
2.7
3.2
3.0
3.1
3.0

(Ohms when both Probes are touched directly is 0.2)

At least I get enough of a vape with just a 1 second draw (I'm not a big vaper to begin with), so they are usable for me.
 

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ok I took the center plug, i cut it out so i could stuff it around the cup and while it doesnt solve the refilling issue im sure a hole for filling can be added.

its vaping like a beast , wicking extremly well, tastes better then with the big inner plug. its a little sloppy but works amazingly well, hope someone else will try this.

omg, i had to update, you must try this, its vaping better then ever, wicking so well with pull after pull. i need to add a fill hole and im freaking set.
 
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