E2 Cartomizer Technical Discussion

[zoiDman]

No, if you cut the wick you end up with thousands of strands everywhere, but
I did suggest blue foam or old-carto filler material a few posts ago.

If the wick was braided instead of single strands then this wouldn't happen. It would also would not lay flat around corners which reduces wicking.

 

[Ghetto_Cowgirl]

I just might lol. I have the originals, the 510 ceramics and the 510 ceramic XLs. XLs were wicking great at first now they're bleh....crappy wicking, Have to kind of tip it upside down or shake it which causes it to leak sometimes. You all sit and talk about different "fixes" you done to them to help with wicking, which was what I was asking for. A quick bullet list of 510 XL carto wicking fixes at home

 

[jjrose]

I sent you some XL's to try today
glad to see you here, I just hope you keep up with the somewhat possible leaks or threads and things

Yep I'm reading it all! I'm still using the original e-2s, but that will change soon! Thank you.

 

[v1John]

If on occasion you find a U.S. re-seller that does not need the bad ones back, chances are it's because the supplier was already paid a hidden fee for what they make you think is customer service. Sorry about your cartos though, mister kil. At least 15 cartos is not that much, I have given away a lot more than that.

 

[badkolo]

zoidman, exactly, i have been saying the same exact thing for the last month in both threads, theres the other type of wick which i posted pics form another user, its a braided woven wick and round like, that wick looks like the perfect wick for this type of system, this wick on the e2 is more of a stranded wick .

 

[BanjoMan]

I just might lol. I have the originals, the 510 ceramics and the 510 ceramic XLs. XLs were wicking great at first now they're bleh....crappy wicking, Have to kind of tip it upside down or shake it which causes it to leak sometimes. You all sit and talk about different "fixes" you done to them to help with wicking, which was what I was asking for. A quick bullet list of 510 XL carto wicking fixes at home

GC if you pull the filler ring on the XL's and replace it with the middle ring it will help the wicking a lot, but if you don't keep the carto upright you'll still get liquid in the air-tube. Some people are playing with the filler ring itself, but I haven't gotten that far yet.

Of course, there's always revision 4 (or is it 5 now?)

 

[badkolo]

if i could only get a clean slice of the e2 in half, so i can seal the bottom of the cup myself then seal the slits and somehow get the tube back on without leaking form where i cut it, i could try mighty fix it tape to hold it in place of the test??

 

[v1John]

If the wick was braided instead of single strands then this wouldn't happen. It would also would not lay flat around corners which reduces wicking.

McMaster-Carr does have tightly braided and loosely knitted ones too! I don't know much about wicks, does it matter if it's silica or fiberglass? One kind is not available in thin diameter, the other one is:

McMaster-Carr

really I'm not even sure what kind the ce2 has

 

[badkolo]

#1 #2 and #5 look like a perfect wick for this system.

the one that is now being used resembles 6 but with thinner strands.

 

[WiηgC¤mmαηdεя]

So I was told that they would not replace my e2 v1's with new ones (15 of them) or one v-go battery that was DOA. They said I would have to ship them back to get replacements. I understand that some people scam to get goods, but I order from them a lot and they know the v1's were hit or miss even with modding. I don't really mind just giving them up, but it seems like poor customer service to me.

I am sorry to hear of your difficulties mister kil, and I can relate to a degree. In my experience any DOA or faulty item I have purchased (except in one case)has required me to return said items prior to replacement being sent.
I did check the e-liquid.cn site and it does state:

Our official policy requires the return of faulty or broken parts to us before we can provide a replacement. However, please contact us with your problem and we will make exceptions on a case to case basis.

I am not sure how they judge each case, but they probably have a policy in place regarding exchanging previous versions for new versions now.
Have you checked to see what the cheapest registered or trackable method available is? Even if it takes awhile to get there would probably be worth it for you.

All the best, Happy Vaping,
Wing.

 

[v1John]

Here's another question, what if the coil was shaped like a "V" and instead of using wick slots onthe sides of the cup, they used wick-holes on the back of the cup, at 90 degrees from the wire holes?

 

[badkolo]

mister kill ill send you some e2's and let martinez know, but on the vgo i cant help ya and they should just send you a battery with no questions asked. especially if you purchased before.

im wondering if they hate sending replacements becuase of the high shipping. lol

 

[zoiDman]

Seems like Before a manufacture changed the design of the cup or the geometry of a seal or anything else, they would consider trying different wicking sizes and shapes. That is the easiest thing to change and the cheapest.

Since wicking is also a problem, could two problems (Leaking and Wicking) be fixed at the same time by using a woven / braided round wick? It would be easy to test in that they do not need a redesign of the cup or the seal.

Also, when changes are made and then not tested, unforseen problems can occur. Isn't that what happend when the slots were made larger? Isn't that what caused the leaking into the cup?

 

[WiηgC¤mmαηdεя]

badkolo, you have been at the forefront of helping members with issues and if I haven't said it before thanks for your attention and consideration to the issues at hand with this. I am sure others feel the same way.

The same to Nav as well.

All the best, Happy Vaping,
Wing.

 

[badkolo]

thanks, i just want these things to get fixed, kind of dumb that we have to play this back and fourth game to get them fixed but if they are willing to fix them and we as vapors feel these things have a place in replacing old cartos then im willing to stick it out as well.

Zoid, I agree and yeah i feel strongly as well about the wick being changed and I have mentioned it before and will reiterate it again when i speak to him. Not sure if you saw my post a few pages back but i was informed that they removed the primer and they have tested and fixed the leak caused from under the cup where it sits on the stem and they are making a new mold to test with closed type slits .

so now we wait

 

[Ghetto_Cowgirl]

Thanks Banjo Already done that, I can't leave things alone it just isn't quite wicking fast enough on the LS. I have another XL sitting on the wetbox, prefilled it and now just squeeze when it won't wick right. Guess I'll have to play with them a bit more, like every one else it seems lol. Still beats the hell out of the old cartos either way!

 

[vaporgalinfla]

Ok, I have some New Fresh news. lol

I have been informed that they have fixed the primer issue and Revision 4 will be primer FREE.(no primer).
I was also informed that the main leaking from the stem where the cup sits on the airflow stem HAS BEEN FIXED and tested repeatedly.

I'm so glad I read this post! I bought one box of 808s and one box of 510s from COV a few weeks ago. The 510s worked great on my Little Sister, but the 808s immediately tasted burned. But what was most irritating was that both leaked like crazy. In fact, it was so irritating that I stopped using them. Anyway, I received a Wetbox yesterday. One blank 510 new CE2 came in it. I've not used it yet, but it looks like there's no primer in it. I'll have to try it tonight and see if there's any difference.

As a side note, I got caught up in COV's announcement that they rec'd new CE2s yesterday and ordered two boxes of 808s, one box of 510s, and one box of the XL510s. I probably should have waited .

 

[v1John]

Thanks Banjo Already done that, I can't leave things alone it just isn't quite wicking fast enough on the LS. I have another XL sitting on the wetbox, prefilled it and now just squeeze when it won't wick right. Guess I'll have to play with them a bit more, like every one else it seems lol. Still beats the hell out of the old cartos either way!

I haven't had any wicking problems at all. Are you vaping like you used to back in the old filler carto days? Are you finding wicking issues on 2 of 2 XL's so far? I don't use boxes, I use the regular batteries and the vgos, including 1 Hello, and I have zero wicking problems. Are you saying that one of the cartos does not wick well on one box, but not on a different one?

 

[v1John]

... but they probably have a policy in place regarding exchanging previous versions for new versions now.
Have you checked to see what the cheapest registered or trackable method available is? Even if it takes awhile to get there would probably be worth it for you.

All the best, Happy Vaping,
Wing.

That makes sense, I think using snail mail for this sounds better (for the battery, as cartos and liquid are non-replaceable to the bomk). I do remember reading something to the effect that technological advances or upgrades do not constitute a free replacement or something like that, but I can't remember where I read that. It was one day when I read all the sites, from Microcig to ecigfair, to RoyalSmokers and e-liquid. etc

I don't know of a good analogy, but at the moment I'm guessing something like getting an '09 car, and a month later hoping for a free exchange to a 2010? Or maybe buying an alarm clock, and a month later the factory makes one with a better sound? I dunno, a U.S. store might, but factories don't work like that. The U.S. store may not even do it, but if they do, chances are that there was already a hidden fee paid to them by the consumer that allows them to do that.

 

[BanjoMan]

Ironically, while I've been messing with these XL's I've been using my older standard 510 (plastic cup) CE2's and they're holding up pretty well. With all the XL talk I missed if anyone had received any non-XL 510 or 808D ceramics. I assume they're having the same problems as the XL's (?)

I'm sitting here looking at a disassembled XL and wondering if it would help any to cut a small bit of length off the bottom of the filler ring. Enough to relieve some pressure off the wick, but not enough to prevent the ring from keeping the juice in the reservoir. Anyway I plan on trying that tomorrow when I have better light to work with.