E2 Cartomizer Technical Discussion

[Scottbee]

It is my strong opinion that the "filler ring" on the ceramic units is designed as an integral and structural component in the assembly.... adding to the stability of the center core and supplementing the lower post grommet.

Me thinks that if you remove the "filler ring" and then try to reinstall it.. you're flirting with disaster.

 

[br5495]

It is my strong opinion that the "filler ring" on the ceramic units is designed as an integral and structural component in the assembly.... adding to the stability of the center core and supplementing the lower post grommet.

Me thinks that if you remove the "filler ring" and then try to reinstall it.. you're flirting with disaster.

Me thinks the same thing.

 

[keyzygirl]

Hi Scottbee!!Havent seen you around much lately!!

 

[naviathan]

It is my strong opinion that the "filler ring" on the ceramic units is designed as an integral and structural component in the assembly.... adding to the stability of the center core and supplementing the lower post grommet.

Me thinks that if you remove the "filler ring" and then try to reinstall it.. you're flirting with disaster.

I'm inclined to agree with this.

 

[Scottbee]

Hi Scottbee!!Havent seen you around much lately!!

I hide from you `cuz you say mean things and hurt my precious lil' feelings....

 

[keyzygirl]

I DO NOT!!!Im nice,Im always nice!!

 

[Turbo]

Me thinks that if you remove the "filler ring" and then try to reinstall it.. you're flirting with disaster.

This is exactly why I plan to keep it in when mine come in. Thanks for the tip!

 

[br5495]

This is exactly why I plan to keep it in when mine come in. Thanks for the tip!

I had to take one out to get it to wick properly, but I didn't put it back in. Hopefully you won't have to do that.

 

[Turbo]

I had to take one out to get it to wick properly, but I didn't put it back in. Hopefully you won't have to do that.

Yes, hope not. I don't guess the old hard cap filler ring would work? Pretty sure it won't from what I read about the new one's design..

 

[nicotime]

Hey guys...been following this for a while and decided to order some of the 510 c-e2 xl and 510 c-e2 regulars to try out. In the past year since I started vaping I have only used the 510 atomizers...never a carto..so this will be a new one for me.

Question is why does it say 510 c-e2 xl for Ego?? Will these work on my mod boxes or a regular 510 batt?

Also...on checkout you come to a choice of Request INTERNATIONAL Shipping Quote and they will contact you or Zone Based Shipping Rates where it list the amount already...which is better??

Thanks for keeping us updated on this what looks to be a like a better technology!!

 

[Scottbee]

Question is why does it say 510 c-e2 xl for Ego?? Will these work on my mod boxes or a regular 510 batt?

Also...on checkout you come to a choice of Request INTERNATIONAL Shipping Quote and they will contact you or Zone Based Shipping Rates where it list the amount already...which is better??

Don't have a clue as to why they reference the "eGo"... the units work just fine on standard 510 batteries and most 510 compatible mods (although they don't really seem to like higher voltages).

I ended up getting the shipping quote on my second order.... if I remember correctly it didn't really save me much if any.

 

[br5495]

Yes, hope not. I don't guess the old hard cap filler ring would work? Pretty sure it won't from what I read about the new one's design..

It won't work as is. I'll try to mod one and see what it does.

 

[nicotime]

Don't have a clue as to why they reference the "eGo"... the units work just fine on standard 510 batteries and most 510 compatible mods (although they don't really seem to like higher voltages).

I ended up getting the shipping quote on my second order.... if I remember correctly it didn't really save me much if any.

I see....they sell the Ego also so maybe they are trying to push it also.

I am assuming that the XL and the regular is the same thing except for the capacity right...or am I wasting time getting the regulars?
Thanks Scottbee!!

 

[Scottbee]

I am assuming that the XL and the regular is the same thing except for the capacity right...or am I wasting time getting the regulars?
Thanks Scottbee!!

I'm pretty sure that's the "intent".. but any time you go and mess with geometry, you're bound to create other (often subtle.. sometimes not) differences.

As far as the 510-class units are concerned, I only have personal experience with the XL's.

 

[nicotime]

I'm pretty sure that's the "intent".. but any time you go and mess with geometry, you're bound to create other (often subtle.. sometimes not) differences.

As far as the 510-class units are concerned, I only have personal experience with the XL's.

This is true...look at what happen when they went from a flat earth to a round one!

Alrighty then..I'll give them a try!

Thanks again!!

 

[tiburonfirst]

This is true...look at what happen when they went from a flat earth to a round one!

Alrighty then..I'll give them a try!

Thanks again!!

love that apron, nico

 

[v1John]

Upper thing
Ok, I think we agree now that the inner cap is not designed to be romoved or disturbed.

What is a good solution? I ask because after all, it IS fragile and extremely unglued. A long time ago I suggested a metallic inner cap, pressure fitted into place permanently by the factory. Now I know this would not work, because it would transfer the high temps to the carto shell.

My suggestion now is to therefore use a permanent, METALLIC, factory pressure-fitted, 'Middle Ring',
that permanently holds the carto components in place, including the silicone inner cap which also insulates.




Lower thing
I haven't given this much thought, but I do agree that the connector area has many loose parts in there.

The bottom problem could almost be solved with a silicone ring, that looks like the current silicone middle ring, they may have to use the putty again though. I just hope they don't use so much that it never cures!

Sealants do have a certain 'time' that is necessary for the curing process for a given bead size. They need to adhere to the curing TIME requirements, and minimal bead size. (No more putty pyramids that never cure, I hope)

 

[br5495]

Lower thing
I haven't given this much thought, but I do agree that the connector area has many loose parts in there.

John, the connector only has one loose part it there. It is the silicone insulating grommet. It is the same thing that is used on all other devices to insulate the center post from the outer shell.

 

[v1John]

There is also room in the XL to go ahead and suggest a filler port, which is a hole on the side of the carto, bigger than a 901 hole, that the little hobby oiler bottles can be used so that syringes are not required.

Scottbee made one like that, I think, but I haven't seen pics, are they on ECF Scottbee? Is there a design you would think could work on the XL cartos?

A ring on the carto of some sort could be somehow locked in place, until it's time to fill and re-fill. The ring then is unlocked lengthwise, and then rotated or spun in one direction to unseal and reveal the filler port?
I'm not sure that would make a good seal when the port does not need to be accessed, though. Any thoughts?

Something like this might be for a future ce3, and they can even make them 1mm wider in diameter. The wicks would not need to make a sharp 90 degree turn right as they come out of the slots either, and the carto could hold almost another ml.

Regular 280mah 808d batteries, and the regular 510megas, could also be made just 1mm wider. That is not that much a difference, but yet enough that could help many things. I'm thinking of batteries more narrow than the vgo, but slightly longer. Right now the vgo battery is much shorter than regular ecigarette batteries, but so much wider.

 

[v1John]

John, the connector only has one loose part it there. It is the silicone insulating grommet. It is the same thing that is used on all other devices to insulate the center post from the outer shell.

And that causes so many things to appear to spin or move when threading a bettery to the carto sometimes?