E2 Cartomizer Technical Discussion

[arjay55]

Thanks for all the hints, tips and support everybody. Nice to hear from the Aussie contingent, sorry to hear your having the same sort of experience.

chrizzle, your a genius!!

I found a material shop that had some 'tule' fabric. I got a piece 30x100cm (appx 1foot by 3foot3inches) for $2.20
I cut a piece off when I got home and dipped it into a 'condom' filled with juice (eeeew!). It did not wick at all, but did hold the juice nicely.
I cut a strip about 1/2 wide and folded it length ways 3 times. I also folded the top over twice (making it 6 ply). What mongrel stuff to try and keep folded, but I digress.
Slipped this into a carto that had some juice already in it and I had put away in disgrace (waited 10 minutes) and took a few puffs. I took a few more and still no 'dry wick' taste. Got 8 puffs before it tasted a tiny bit off.
I had three more with juice in them and I put the 'tule' fabric in them as well. Every single one of them has worked way better than before. True, I've only had a few goes on each, but it's looking good.
I did 15 straight br type puffs on one with no problems.
It's early days yet but I'm a lot happier than yesterday.

PS. I replaced the filler ring in all but one of them, but I cut a larger hole with a hole punch in them beforehand. The inner hole is now the same size as the inside of the ceramic cup.
I did not replace the middle ring in any except the one without the filler ring, which has the middle ring replaced upside down, also with a slightly larger hole punched in it.
I've had no leaking in the short time since doing these mods, but I do store them upright.

I nearly killed myself with one carto. I couldn't remember what juice I had in each carto, as I got 10 different 5ml samples with my eGo. The one in question was clove. Aaii Karumba. Who thought that would be a good idea for a flavour. (when regaining composure I topped it off with some Chinese menthol and it tastes pretty darn good now. Go figure)

Again thanks to all for your help. I'm going outside now taking all 4 E2's v3.5.112 part 'tule', and vape my head clean off

 

[BanjoMan]

If anybody's interested I started a thread in the Bloog sub-forum so Leaford can comment and answer questions. You'll find it here.

 

[nickf41680]

Here's my findings on the r4 I did a side by side comparison between a untouched r4 filled with a syringe and a ptb modded one by bad's method (2fold) I am currently using a riva with a 2.5 ohm r4.... On the untouched cart I felt the vape was awesome no burnt taste At all and leaking.... On the ptb modded one I experienced a dry wick and burnt taste and had realized the wick had def been burnt..... I feel as though the wick on the r4 is thicker than the previous and that the ptb is too tight against the Cart wall causing the liquid to be blocked and. Not enter the cup properly(as I had left the wick in place and added ptb)Has anyone else experienced anything similar to this yet?

 

[br5495]

Like this?

Yep, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Do you think using one this way affects battery life one way or the other?

 

[chrizzle]

chrizzle, your a genius!!

If I only had a nickel every time I've heard that.....I'd have a nickel. Glad that is working for you arjay, but I can't take any credit for that. Just remembered that I saw that thread right before reading your post and figured it might work. I hope it continues to perform for you. I haven't tried any of the E2 (any revision) yet. I am waiting for the verdict on this revision before I place an order and hopefully someone in the US will have them when I am ready to order. I don't need 100.

 

[BanjoMan]

I'm curious if anyone who has both the standard AND XL cartos likes the standards better. I find I have to clean the XL's just as often as their shorter cousins, and that they take much longer to clean and dry burn.

 

[Turbo]

I'm curious if anyone who has both the standard AND XL cartos likes the standards better. I find I have to clean the XL's just as often as their shorter cousins, and that they take much longer to clean and dry burn.

I like the XL's better for their capacity but keep a couple shorts in my PCC for backup.

 

[K24A3]

Ive been using R3 XL's religiously for a few weeks and they have been fine. I've refilled most of them maybe 10 times and they are still going strong, and that's without any cleaning at all. The wick can get crusty with thick/colored juices but the crust doesnt seem to affect the performance, except for one flavor (WowVanilla) where it burns a bit too easily. I may have dry burnt this one a bit excessively using a low powered battery resulting in bad performance. It has a crust that mother earth would be proud of.
Other thick/colored juices are still fine however (a bit of crust but nothing too major).

Compared to my normal sized carto's, I can't really notice a difference. The XL's last twice as long so I'm happy with them.

 

[K24A3]

Huh e-liquids only sell in lots of 100 now?

E-liquid Web Shop CN Cartomizers Edition 2 R4

 

[BanjoMan]

Huh e-liquids only sell in lots of 100 now?

E-liquid Web Shop CN Cartomizers Edition 2 R4

Yup, but look at it this way: It improves your chances of getting a few good ones (lol).

 

[Scottbee]

Yep, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Do you think using one this way affects battery life one way or the other?

I'll be honest with you BR, I don't know and have never really done a definitive test to determine if it is a net (+) or (-). In a lead-acid world the answer would be obvious since deep-cycling them definitely has negative effects on the longevity of the cell(s). But.. according to lore... with these Li-Ion units it shouldn't much matter as long as the "deep cycling" doesn't go below the "lower damage voltage".. which the commercial PV battery circuitry is designed to avoid.

But I can definitively tell you that I get a "more satisfying" and consistent vape using this style device and charger since the battery voltage is usually held closer to peak and is only given an opportunity to "sag" when I'm away from the base for an extended period of time.

 

[Turbo]

I'll be honest with you BR, I don't know and have never really done a definitive test to determine if it is a net (+) or (-). In a lead-acid world the answer would be obvious since deep-cycling them definitely has negative effects on the longevity of the cell(s). But.. according to lore... with these Li-Ion units it shouldn't much matter as long as the "deep cycling" doesn't go below the "lower damage voltage".. which the commercial PV battery circuitry is designed to avoid.

But I can definitively tell you that I get a "more satisfying" and consistent vape using this style device and charger since the battery voltage is usually held closer to peak and is only given an opportunity to "sag" when I'm away from the base for an extended period of time.

I'm assuming you made that 'scott'? That's sweet.

 

[br5495]

it relates to my carto mod, I still think the E2s need to be 1mm wider.
It doesn't mean it can't have a flat tip or a narrow one, but the carto just needs more room for the wick

The bottle mod that I displayed in a previous post was originally made to test the longer wick of the XL. It is considerably wider than an additional 1mm, therefore the carto has much more room for the wick. The wick in my mod does not work any better and it cannot empty the bottle when it is vaped in the vertical position.

........ then they can make the carto 1mm wider

The wicks the way they are dangle too much and when they get to the stem or wires they get distracted from what they should be doing

The wick gets distracted? That is a factor that I have not considered yet, LOL.

And all we're hopefully asking for is 1mm wider cartos?

We're hopefully asking for? Where does the 'we' come from? I ain't got no rat in my pocket.

Now I WOULD like for there to be a larger diameter version. But not for the XL, because it has too great of a distance to wick when the reservoir is getting low. However, the regular size E2 does not have this problem, so I firmly believe that a larger diameter of this one is the way to go for greater capacity.

This is not to say that NONE of the XL's will empty the reservoir from the vertical position. A few of them do. Even some of the first XL's did. The 510 I am vaping on right now does. I haven't removed the filler ring yet, so I don't know what version it is. I got this one from bad yesterday and he got them so mixed up that I can't make heads of tails out of any of these things.

So, I'm still standing by what I have been saying all along. There are too many factors involved for all of these things to wick the same way.

 

[Scottbee]

I'm assuming you made that 'scott'? That's sweet.

Yup..... part of the "Super TorneGo II". Can be seen here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/product-feature-design-requests/70591-dream-pvs.html

 

[br5495]

I'll be honest with you BR, I don't know and have never really done a definitive test to determine if it is a net (+) or (-). In a lead-acid world the answer would be obvious since deep-cycling them definitely has negative effects on the longevity of the cell(s). But.. according to lore... with these Li-Ion units it shouldn't much matter as long as the "deep cycling" doesn't go below the "lower damage voltage".. which the commercial PV battery circuitry is designed to avoid.

But I can definitively tell you that I get a "more satisfying" and consistent vape using this style device and charger since the battery voltage is usually held closer to peak and is only given an opportunity to "sag" when I'm away from the base for an extended period of time.

Thanks for the reply Scott. In my ignorance I assumed about the same thing. Of course, it really doesn't matter. This is an ideal way to use one, regardless of a plus or minus battery life.

Seems like I remembered that you modified yours for 3.7 volts. That being the case, I can see where you will get a more consistent vape.

Now, I don't own an eGo battery, but I assume that it regulates at a somewhat less voltage. Therefore, I expect that it would be a bit more consistent for someone like myself who prefers a lower voltage. I'm liking this idea more all the time. The 650 mAh eGo is smaller than my Hello, and I would like it better while setting here at my desk.

 

[guitardedmark]

Is there is a US shipper that sells the E2 R4 for a 510 NOT in bulk?

Also, what do you guys think of the E2R4 510 vs the geniune joytech 510 carto?

Thanks and happy vaping!

 

[br5495]

Besides, I wouldn't buy anything without Br's permission.

Lord have mercy, gal. I'd be afraid that you would peck my eyeballs out if I was responsible for what you buy.

 

[nickf41680]

Is there is a US shipper that sells the E2 R4 for a 510 NOT in bulk?

Also, what do you guys think of the E2R4 510 vs the geniune joytech 510 carto?

Thanks and happy vaping!

Cloudsofvapor.com has em thaw where I got mine from

 

[Katya]

Thanks for the reply Scott. In my ignorance I assumed about the same thing. Of course, it really doesn't matter. This is an ideal way to use one, regardless of a plus or minus battery life.

Seems like I remembered that you modified yours for 3.7 volts. That being the case, I can see where you will get a more consistent vape.

Now, I don't own an eGo battery, but I assume that it regulates at a somewhat less voltage. Therefore, I expect that it would be a bit more consistent for someone like myself who prefers a lower voltage. I'm liking this idea more all the time. The 650 mAh eGo is smaller than my Hello, and I would like it better while setting here at my desk.

3.1-3.2v under load. Per Scottbee.

May I suggest a Riva instead? Much nicer, rubberized button and 750 mAh. Besides, you can't beat this deal:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...99-shipping-20-off-all-stock.html#post1919932

They should have them back in stock by the end of next week.

Lord have mercy, gal. I'd be afraid that you would peck my eyeballs out if I was responsible for what you buy.

I don't mess with mean-looking Texans.

 

[leaford]

Like this?

Hmmm, that's VERY interesting. I was looking at a similar unit, but rejected it because it used it's own non-standard model, incompatible with anything else. And it was constructed PCC style which didn't seem to serve any purpose for a desk top unit, and took up extra space. Oh, and it was ugly and cheesy looking. THAT is sleek, slim, and really very nice.

Don't suppose you would mind telling me where you found it, wouldja???