Eheim filterpad mod

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excuse my lack of knowledge, but I picked up some blue stuff a couple months back, and I could never get it to wick right.
Well, when I went to Petco to find some, there were about 732 different sizes.

At least I assume they were different sizes, but I never really looked at all of them to see what the difference was. This thread said to get the size U ones, so I did. But there was also sizes A, B, E, Z, G, F, X, R, S, and LMNOP. So I'm guessing that many of them may have larger or smaller sponge holes, and may work better or worse.

For all I know, we are all using the size U simply because that is what the first person came across, and it might be the worst size we could be using.

Someone needs to buy all of them and experiment!!
8-o

But of course, then it will still depend on what juice you are using.
So yeah, there you go.
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I don't know what I ended up with but the stuff I got at Petsmart is manufactured by fluval and it's almost like the consistency of a loofa. It doesn't seem to wick very well and it's leaking out the atty holes. I keep my 510 (manual) in an empty cigar tube (works very well btw) and I usually see liquid around where the atty holes are in the tube, and the outside is usually wet. Thinking about switching back to poly with straw mod, working very well with that so far although still not sucking carts dry... Did I get the wrong stuff?
 

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If you guys with the 510 are filling your cart and cutting along the top, the stuff will still make contact with the atty bridge. The atty bridge, on my 510, drops down into the cart so wouldnt the filler have to be below that to "not make contact" with the atty?

I wanna do this, but I dont wanna wind up causing problems or burning the stuff.
 

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If you guys with the 510 are filling your cart and cutting along the top, the stuff will still make contact with the atty bridge. The atty bridge, on my 510, drops down into the cart so wouldnt the filler have to be below that to "not make contact" with the atty?

I wanna do this, but I dont wanna wind up causing problems or burning the stuff.
If the cart filling and the atty bridge don't make contact, how is the liquid going to wick from the cart to the atty? They need to be in contact in order to work.
 

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If you guys with the 510 are filling your cart and cutting along the top, the stuff will still make contact with the atty bridge. The atty bridge, on my 510, drops down into the cart so wouldnt the filler have to be below that to "not make contact" with the atty?

I wanna do this, but I dont wanna wind up causing problems or burning the stuff.

It's supposed to make contact with the atomizer's metal mesh wick, of course. In theory, that part's not supposed to heat up—it's just supposed to transport the fluid from the cartridge to the heating coil. Of course, in practice, it can get pretty freakin' hot (people have actually melted cartridges a bit), which I personally have always felt was one of the bigger design flaws of the 510.
 

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I am just trying to clarify because someone in this thread had said that the atty wont burn the foam because lack of contact, but if there is contact between the two and the foam does burn, it can release some severely toxic chemicals that can potentially harm you.

I wanted to cover all the bases before I go and buy the stuff...
 

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A couple people have asked for input from ppl who used this mod & the ptb. I tried 2 different methods of the ptb on my Janty Stick with the classic atomizer (a modified 801) & the results sucked. I did the roll fold & trim method, it didn't wick well and leaked. The double folded, rolled, frayed mod worked a bit better but the directions are for a much smaller cart. One bag wasn't enough material & 2 was too much. I was resigned to spending a while figuring out exactly the right amount when I stumbled across this thread. I didn't do anything special with it. I just cut the foam to the width of my cart & about 1/8 in shorter (so I can see when I'm overfilling) & shoved it in. It's been wicking great. The only problem I've had was with topping off & I think that windmill method has solved that problem. If not, it's not that difficult to pull the whole plug out & drip into the cart.
 

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Sorry, don't get it..... Do you put a piece of the Eheim filter in first towards the mouth end and then put a piece of regular Poly Fil on top of it towards the atomizer end......
I think some people are doing that, but I'm not sure why.
I'm just using the blue foam by itself without anything else.

I too have just bought the fluval foam from petco. It works fantastic but I am concerned on whether it is safe or not. I can't find anywhere what this stuff is made of and don't want to be vaping toxic chemicals.
Just to be clear, the fluval is NOT the same thing as the blue foam.
 

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I think some people are doing that, but I'm not sure why.
I'm just using the blue foam by itself without anything else.

Just to be clear, the fluval is NOT the same thing as the blue foam.
Ok...do you think it's just as safe as the blue foam? I get no bad taste from it....in fact the liquid seems to be more flavorful....and it doesn't seem to be putting out a bad order either.
 

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I have never seen a burnt mark or a melt mark on my blue foam. I've been using it for 4 months +. The taste is great. You do have to practice a bit with the level of the juice in there. The sponge actually works best after the wick makes a permanent dent in it. It also takes me a day or two to get the wick to absorb more and not leak. I cut the thing a hair wider than 1/2 inch, I mean a hair, for a 901, with no point at the bottom. It takes about14-20 drops in the beginning, and empties completely if you do a slow chain vape. Like chain vape till the atty starts to get hot, then put it down for a bit, etc. I just love this stuff.
 

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I may have to try the foam again. When I first tried it, I had some leaking issues (my fault, I was trying to push it), but everything was otherwise okay, until three days later I tasted a slight chemical tone underlying all my liquids, all in different carts through different atomizers. So I stopped using it. But nobody else seems to get this, so maybe my taste buds were just weird that day.

I really wish it weren't blue, though.
 

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I may have to try the foam again. When I first tried it, I had some leaking issues (my fault, I was trying to push it), but everything was otherwise okay, until three days later I tasted a slight chemical tone underlying all my liquids, all in different carts through different atomizers. So I stopped using it. But nobody else seems to get this, so maybe my taste buds were just weird that day.

I really wish it weren't blue, though.
I got the fluval foam.....which is clear....and it does work fantastic....I put an e-mail into Hagen to find out exactly what this stuff if made of.....and I don't have any chemical taste coming from it at all.....in fact....the liquid seems more flavorful. I'll post the results as soon as I get them.
 

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I got the fluval foam.....which is clear....and it does work fantastic....I put an e-mail into Hagen to find out exactly what this stuff if made of.....and I don't have any chemical taste coming from it at all.....in fact....the liquid seems more flavorful. I'll post the results as soon as I get them.

Excellent, looking forward to it!
 
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