Eheim filterpad mod

[Kavik79]

oh...my.....god!

So, I just bought this huge bag of poly-fill to refill my carts. Did one very badly, then remembered this thread and that I meant to try this first

Anyway, got the stuff, washed it out, cut to fit (just a hair wider at the top, and slightly angled inward at the bottom to keep it losser on the mouth end) and I can't believe the difference! Easy as can be, no guessing at how much poly to use, no mess of fibers and all that crap.

Put it in, filled it with 22 drops, then pulled about a drops worth back out because I got carried away and overfilled. Then leaked about another drops worth But after that, i used it for over 3 hours of pretty constant vaping in front of my computer last night, and for the last hour this morning.....still haven't had to top off, still has the taste/feel of a freshly filled cart, and is giving me better vapor production than my regular carts were


Overall reaction:

 

[AngusATAT]

I'm trying this on my 510, and having a small problem. I'm using the blue foam sleeve for the H.O.T. Magnum, type "U".

If I use a piece that exactly fits the cart, it floods quickly. If I use a piece that is a little wider than my cart, it still floods, but more slowly. I finally cut a long piece and doubled it up, and this stopped the leaking/flooding issue entirely. But while it works extremely well on my Chuck (best cart mod I've tried so far), it is terrible on a regular 510 battery, and barely produces vapor at all with a very hard draw. I'm sure it has something to do with better airflow due to the connector on my Chuck. Other mods will be similar, I'd bet.

It's not really an issue for me, since I am about to do away with stock 510 batteries altogether, and the PTB mod can tide me over until then.

This mod is soooooo much easier to make, use, and maintain than anything else I've tried. I'm a chain vaper, and one cart filling will last me quite a while. It's easy to refill, and a breeze to rinse out and restuff. I wish it would work better with my stock 510 batteries, but no biggie there.

 

[Kavik79]

i'm surprised to hear that you get a hard draw on your 510 with this. I'm using an unmodifed 510 and it draws alot easier for me than the stock carts did....and I'm sure the flooding I had was only due to the overfilling I did.

I wonder if you're using a thinner liquid?

Oh! speaking of liquid....got the package from you in the mail the other day, now just waiting for my empty bottles to arrive this week so I can start experienting thanks again!

 

[AngusATAT]

i'm surprised to hear that you get a hard draw on your 510 with this. I'm using an unmodifed 510 and it draws alot easier for me than the stock carts did....and I'm sure the flooding I had was only due to the overfilling I did.

I wonder if you're using a thinner liquid?

The juice I'm using is a 50/50 PG/VG mix, so I don't think it's too thin. Maybe it's because I'm doubling the foam in the cart. But since it works great in my Chuck, I'm not going to worry too much about it. I only have to deal with the stock 510 batteries at work for now, and soon I won't use them at all.

 

[Kavik79]

yeah, 50/50 should be alot thicker then what I'm using. It's just funny to hear how the same mod never works the same way twice on the same equipment....

I wonder if there's a filter out there that has a layer of denser material already attached to a layer of this stuff. So that we could have more density up near the top of the cart (the atty end) without having to resort to two seperate materials like some earlier in this thread mentioned doing

 

[Kavik79]

ugh.....case in point. I just made another cart out of this stuff, looks like I used the same length and width, and this new one leaks like a sieve LOL

oh well, at least this one pack gives enough foam for about a thousand trials and errors

 

[DC2]

If I use a piece that exactly fits the cart, it floods quickly. If I use a piece that is a little wider than my cart, it still floods, but more slowly. I finally cut a long piece and doubled it up, and this stopped the leaking/flooding issue entirely. But while it works extremely well on my Chuck (best cart mod I've tried so far), it is terrible on a regular 510 battery, and barely produces vapor at all with a very hard draw.

I use it with my 510 battery and it took me awhile to find the right width.
Right now I am using a piece that is between 1/4 and 1/3 wider than the cartridge.

It's working great.


On my Chuck, I use the Direct Drip Cartridge Mod.
And oh, man, do I LOVE that.

 

[Quitter]

The juice I'm using is a 50/50 PG/VG mix, so I don't think it's too thin. Maybe it's because I'm doubling the foam in the cart. But since it works great in my Chuck, I'm not going to worry too much about it. I only have to deal with the stock 510 batteries at work for now, and soon I won't use them at all.

I use a 50/50 PG/VG mix too and in my 510 carts I use foam that is the exact size of the cart. Because the juice is so thick, it wicks perfectly and doesn't leak.

Hope this helps

 

[AngusATAT]

On my Chuck, I use the Direct Drip Cartridge Mod.
And oh, man, do I LOVE that.

Yeah, dripping on the Chuck is awesome. Most of the time I have to use carts, but when I have a chance to sit in one spot for any decent length of time, I'm always dripping.

 

[DC2]

Yeah, dripping on the Chuck is awesome. Most of the time I have to use carts, but when I have a chance to sit in one spot for any decent length of time, I'm always dripping.

Yeah, dripping is great, but have you tried the Direct Drip Cartomizer mod?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cartridge-mods/40093-direct-drip-cart-mod-ddc.html

 

[DC2]

So, I have come to the conclusion that the blue foam kicks ....
You just have to find the right width for your juice.

But Rhoneil sent me two perfectly made Rhoneil PTB mods.
And I have yet to try them, so my opinion may change.

But I'm not sure how you get any easier than the blue foam.
And I do not ever taste ANY plastic taste anymore if I rinse them good in hot water.

 

[AngusATAT]

Yeah, dripping is great, but have you tried the Direct Drip Cartomizer mod?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cartridge-mods/40093-direct-drip-cart-mod-ddc.html

Yep, I've tried it, and one is sitting on my Chuck right now.

 

[Winace]

Ok, read this thread up to page 15... need to inquire some, and put in a few comments. First off, I believe the foam used in AC filters are made more flame ......ant, so chemical manufacturing processes or additives would not be good to vape. But, just an assumption. Now... based on my fluidics background, and observations to comments, a few things worth noting. If these have been said, excuse me, only read 3/4 of the thread. Fluid viscosity will affect rate of wicking when using the same pore diameter of filter. If the fluid is more viscous, compressing the foam, or using smaller poor size should eliminate leaking. When balancing poor size for correct flow delivery to the bridge you are lessening flow over the tea bag mod or fluval even. This is why it is lasting longer, it is giving more consistent delivery of lesser volume fluid. This will most likely cause reduced throat hit and loss of some flavor. To correct, either increase pore size (get more throat hit and flavor at expense of possible leaking), decrease viscosity (cut with alcohol etc), or increase strength of juice. It is a check and balances game. Me, I will probably have 3 pore sizes, depending on fluid viscosity, or 3 levels of compression of the same pore size. Oh, before I forget, the angle suggested to be cut at the mouthpiece end is because the fluid resevoir is not rectangular (it has a "step" on each side, thus you need to cut to fit). Now a question to see if anyone has tried this suggestion..... have a larger pore size at the bottom of the cart, and a smaller pore size toward the lip of the cart. Two ways of doing this... have layers of different pore size, or cut the foam in a wedge where the top need compressed to fit and the bottom fits more loosely. Only drawback here is filling, I would suggest filling by syringe or pulling the foam to the side with a toothpick and then filling. Can someone give this a try if not already and see if it gets even better???

 

[Winace]

I'm using the Marineland sleeves in a u-size as well. Bought a pack of three at my local pet store. They wick amazingly, but after a few hits I start to get a plastic/synthetic taste.

Maybe I need to try a PV that doesn't run as hot as the 510. Any advice on another model? I really like the hit I get from a 510, but am noticing that it does seem to heat up the various cart fillers I have tried. I've even tried three different attys, all the same result.

I've heard good things about the 801, but don't own one. I really don't want to dump the $$$ into a Janty stick or SD.

I get the same chemical taste using nylon tea bags... my experience, it is not the filler material. Check to see if the cart is melted anywhere (even slightly), also tailpipe it when you get this taste (don't inhale it though ;-)) My atty of the 510 just throws this taste in there from time to time, kinda wierd!

 

[Winace]

Might I also recommend boiling the foam first to remove chemicals? Might this also remove any dye? I mean, blue is pretty in a fishtank... why would they make it white to display dirt better?

 

[Hunter3783]

I've used this method today on my 510 and here are my results:

The first time I tried it, I cut a single piece to fit my cart. After trimming and stuffing, I filled it to the top, blotted off the excess fluid, and put the cart on a fairly-used atty. Not only did I get leaking, but my atty actually browned the foam and melted my cart. Not good. 8-o

On my second attempt, I cut a tad bit off my cart to make it shorter to prevent melting. I then cut a strand of foam twice the length of my new modified cart, folded the foam in half, and then stuffed it in my cart. So far, no melted cart and no scortched foam. No leakage, also. Flavor is good, vapor is awesome.

 

[Winace]

Performed the mod, never going back! Nuff said.

 

[chuaa]

for those concerned about dangers of inhaling fumes from the blue foam stuff...i think this should not be much of a concern. the blue foam is stuffed inside the cart. The cart does not heat up..it is the atty that heats up...and the airflow is actually pullin the fluid from the cart into the atty..so hot air is formed in the atty...no hot air is built up inside the cart...

so the main issue here is to make sure that the blue foam does not touch the atty...so the orig design of placing a layer of non-toxic poly fill is still the safest route for this mod...

 

[kreiderb]

I wonder if they react to the e-liquid in any way. If you are worried about them getting hot, the polyfill is a great safe guard, but does it add any chemicals to the juice?

 

[kreiderb]

Has anyone heard back from Marineland regarding what the foam pads are made from?