Finally HERE and Available NOW - GotVapes VORTEX

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I think what Chris was reacting to was more of this panicky response if someone can't get something to work right after their first box and they make statements that more or less write off the whole line of this product when we can see, it is very apparent, that these actually have met with generally great success.

I would think that if "their first box" had issues, there might be a problem! I purchased one box myself and posted a glowing review. I also experienced a few problems since my first post. I noted them on this thread for the purpose of letting the supplier be aware that the product is not consistent. I know that the guys over at GotVapes are not making these units themselves, but they are putting their name on this product line. If I go to a restaurant and the food is bad, I am going to tell my waiter. Now the waiter did not cook my food himself, but he is representing the restaurant. Having been in the customer service related field all of my adult life, I count on customers letting me know when something is not working/prepared properly. If the customers don't speak up, word does get out that management is not interested in the quality of their product or customer satisfaction. There is a proper way to communicate a problem to management that does not put them on the defense. That old saying "you attract more flies with honey than vinegar". Customers work just as hard for their money as you work to earn your money. Sometimes people get frustrated and instead of waiting until they calm down, they convey their experience and disappointment in the current state. Which their current state is not good and words are used that can be offensive to the hard working staff. But in the customer service industry, their is a way to defuse the situation where the customer feels their problem has been heard and management is going to address the issue. Dan and Chris, you know these devices are manufactured in another part of the world. There are people and machines assembling and packaging these items. Both of which are capable of error. Consumers should realize this. When an irate customer conveys their frustration with a purchase on this post, through email, or phone calls, its not a good idea to openly chastise them and say that no one else is having these problems. And fire back at the customer leaving them, and everyone else reading these posts, that you don't care about your customers. And then deleting posts because you don't like how they are worded. In the retail world customer service should be your number one concern. Without customers, there is no business. How you have handled complaints and problems with your customers on this thread, concerns me more than some Vortex's being defective. IMO, you should acknowledge the members issues, let them know that you want them to have the best possible experience with your products and direct them to the PM, that you will be sending directly, with the expressed interest in resolving the issue to their satisfaction. That lets them know that as a customer, you want to make them happy and it makes you shine to everyone else reading these posts. You are going to sell more products, even if a few folks have had problems with them, because the customer is going to feel secure that if they might have issues, those issues will be address and they will not be throwing money away. Got Vapes has earned the reputation of bring the newest and most innovative products to the vaping community. But at your current lack of customer service, regarding the Turbine and Vortex, your going to earn the reputation of throwing out new products with no regard to customer satisfaction. Once someone gets burnt, they are not going to put their hands back in the fire! I hope you can see that what I have said is coming from my desire, for your business to grow and thrive, and customers feeling secure with their purchase. :toast:
 
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I think what Chris was reacting to was more of this panicky response if someone can't get something to work right after their first box and they make statements that more or less write off the whole line of this product when we can see, it is very apparent, that these actually have met with generally great success. Of course we are senstive to ABSOLUTE statements instead of saying, "this has been my experience" and compare notes and ask for assistance, tips, etc.

We put a TON of blood sweat and tears not only into this but everything we do, and we are concerned with posts that can so easily say things like these are crap and a fail and things of that ilk. So I appreciate your post but try to understand our frustrations at times with working so hard on something and people come in and make ABSOLUTE pronouncements in the face of many who have been experiencing great success with these.

I have purchased many products that came no where near my expectations but I woud never go into the suppliers forum and make absolute pronouncements on their effectiveness - "these are garbage, this is a fail". They may not be my cup of tea and I just move on knowing the vendor is challenged to try to appeal to a broad spectrum of customers knowing full well not ALL of his products are for ALL of his customers : )
I do understand that was probably where he was coming from but the post looked bad.All I was trying to say was Chris probably should have handled it the way you just did here. Great job Danno.Very professional.

If people are saying the vortex's are a fail or they are crap than that is very unreasonable and giving a more generalized opinion is more appropriate so as to let others decide for themselves. Anyone reading this should know,never decide what to try based on others opinion.The term "different strokes for different folks" has never been truer than in the ecig industry!!!Use your own head.make your own opinions!!

Your customers should Know how hard you guys work and shouldn't have appearances like that to get in the way of their opinion of what is in my opinion one of the top ecig companies.

It was just a lil disappointing to see his point made in that mannor.
 
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I tried my first two and they are working good. The first one I filled seemed to be not wicking quick enough so I popped off the tube and removed the ALF and lifted the center tube slightly. I didn't bother filling the second until doing the same. They both have been working great all night and into the morning.

The only concern I have is that in this current iteration they do not appear to be sturdy enough for on the go use. I have to put my vote in for at a minimum a gasket at the base of the outer tube. Also a metal tube with 4 sight windows may be the way to go. With the metal tube you can get a more secure fit for the mouth piece as you can increase the tightness without worrying about cracking the tube.

One issue that I am seeing, and this is not isolated to the vortex but all carto's I have used to date, is the amount of condensate that collects. I have no idea how to fix this issue and maybe somebody out there may have an idea. I do like the hollow shape of the mouth piece as it seems to collect most of the condensate keeping it from going into the mouth. My vortex's seem to develop a large amount of condensate in the cup above the coil and once it gets to the point that their is enough it saturates the wick and I notice a dramatic drop in flavor. I wonder if a piece of "ALF" in the top of the cup and halfway down the sides would absorb enough of the condensate to minimize how much will go up the tube and how much would re-saturate the wick. I might experiment with placing a little bit of standard carto filler in the top of the cup to see how it works.
 

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I would think that if "their first box" had issues, there might be a problem! I purchased one box myself and posted a glowing review. I also experienced a few problems since my first post. I noted them on this thread for the purpose of letting the supplier be aware that the product is not consistent. I know that the guys over at GotVapes are not making these units themselves, but they are putting their name on this product line. If I go to a restaurant and the food is bad, I am going to tell my waiter. Now the waiter did not cook my food himself, but he is representing the restaurant. Having been in the customer service related field all of my adult life, I count on customers letting me know when something is not working/prepared properly. If the customers don't speak up, word does get out that management is not interested in the quality of their product or customer satisfaction. There is a proper way to communicate a problem to management that does not put them on the defense. That old saying "you attract more flies with honey than vinegar". Customers work just as hard for their money as you work to earn your money. Sometimes people get frustrated and instead of waiting until they calm down, they convey their experience and disappointment in the current state. Which their current state is not good and words are used that can be offensive to the hard working staff. But in the customer service industry, their is a way to defuse the situation where the customer feels their problem has been heard and management is going to address the issue. Dan and Chris, you know these devices are manufactured in another part of the world. There are people and machines assembling and packaging these items. Both of which are capable of error. Consumers should realize this. When an irate customer conveys their frustration with a purchase on this post, through email, or phone calls, its not a good idea to openly chastise them and say that no one else is having these problems. And fire back at the customer leaving them, and everyone else reading these posts, that you don't care about your customers. And then deleting posts because you don't like how they are worded. In the retail world customer service should be your number one concern. Without customers, there is no business. How you have handled complaints and problems with your customers on this thread, concerns me more than some Vortex's being defective. IMO, you should acknowledge the members issues, let them know that you want them to have the best possible experience with your products and direct them to the PM, that you will be sending directly, with the expressed interest in resolving the issue to their satisfaction. That lets them know that as a customer, you want to make them happy and it makes you shine to everyone else reading these posts. You are going to sell more products, even if a few folks have had problems with them, because the customer is going to feel secure that if they might have issues, those issues will be address and they will not be throwing money away. Got Vapes has earned the reputation of bring the newest and most innovative products to the vaping community. But at your current lack of customer service, regarding the Turbine and Vortex, your going to earn the reputation of throwing out new products with no regard to customer satisfaction. Once someone gets burnt, they are not going to put their hands back in the fire! I hope you can see that what I have said is coming from my desire, for your business to grow and thrive, and customers feeling secure with their purchase. :toast:

What do you mean "current lack of customer service, regarding the Turbine and Vortex"? Thats a pretty bold statement.I hope you have thoroughly thought through saying such a thing before making such a damning statement. "Lack" of? How did you come to form this opinion?keep in mind you are presenting this as fact and what you see on this thread is just a small fraction of who and how they handle their customer service and is probably not indicative to the process as a whole or a good source be able to gather enough info to draw that sort of conclusion and display it as fact.

Your statement can appear to some as an attack and prompt a defensive response.If your "desire" is for Got Vapes to "grow and thrive" you should probably choose your words more carefully.You may tell a waiter at a restaurant if food is not to your liking but you wouldn't tell them that they dont know how to do their job properly because that would be rude, just as it is rude for that waiter to then tell another customer at another table or the whole restaurant for that matter,that you were crying a river over your dissatisfaction.

Also its pretty evident either way that they are not simply "throwing out new products with no regard to customer satisfaction" since every entrepreneur knows their success in inherently tied to customer satisfaction.Besides,trust me I know what these vortex looked like before Got Vapes gave them to us.Talk about a fail.It went from being the hardest carto to fill to being the easiest. They have worked hard clearly out of a passion for what they do and driven to satisfy us,the vapers.

I think it is pretty clear we are all on the same side but words need to be chosen more carefully!!!
 
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Sluers"" If I go to a restaurant and the food is bad, I am going to tell my waiter. Now the waiter did not cook my food himself, but he is representing the restaurant.""

Ok, my question is, do you tell the waiter the food was bad and either would like new food politely, or do you get up in the middle of the restaurant and start screaming about how your food was horrible and how your whole world is ending and thats the worst restaurant you ever ate form and start trashing plates everywhere.???

Now I am sure , just as you have been you would be polite about the situation and let the waiter go and bring your food back. right?

BUT... Some others simply rather stand up in the restaurant and make a spectacle. Daniel and I as owners wont allow that to happen, plain and simple. The other issue is SOME, and this will shock you, are sent to buy form us to start trouble, .

shocking right, well it happens and has happened for the turbine and the vortex and once again I wont tolerate it.

We sell as many dripomizers as we do clearos, you dont see any threads about those, becuase those dont affect others business. So thats why I have been on troll patrol and will continue to do so.


If a customer has a issue we are here to listen to those issues and beg of them to express them all, but expressing issues and trying to destroy a product in public are 2 different things.
 
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Sluers"" If I go to a restaurant and the food is bad, I am going to tell my waiter. Now the waiter did not cook my food himself, but he is representing the restaurant.""

Ok, my question is, do you tell the waiter the food was bad and either would like new food politely, or do you get up in the middle of the restaurant and start screaming about how your food was horrible and how your whole world is ending and thats the worst restaurant you ever ate form and start trashing plates everywhere.???

Now I am sure , just as you have been you would be polite about the situation and let the waiter go and bring your foos back. right?

Some others simple rather stand up in the restaurant and make a spectacle. Daniel and I as owners wont allow that to happen, plain and simple.

I'd be upset too:
If the person happens to own a resturant of his own down the road and is making a public scene to attempt to make my place look bad. Just sayin'. Next add the possible knowledge that said antagonist passed up opportunities to carry the same product line...at least for now. If they continue to sell well...said antagonist will wait it out for a while, continue to attack reputations of those who carried it earlier, and then begin to stock a similar product when they notice customers begin to shift orders to places that stock a little bit of everything as soon as they can (instead of trying to bash anything they don't carry as FAIL).

When antagionist does finally start carrying the product he created so much drama over...it'll suddenly be a GREAT PRODUCT. "We don't stock junk...only tried and true...(and charge you more too)".

I think it happens sometimes, but I do agree that it's probably best to deal with those kinds of posters as quietly as possible.
 
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Ok, has anyone taken the base on one of these apart yet? If the base can be disassembled and reassembled they may be great for modding custom coils. I have been following a thread on coil mods using multiple coils and these vortexes may be the perfect test bed. I just may have to order up some nicrome and start playing.

It's bad when you are waiting for one to fail so you can play with it. However, I'm not going there until one is ready to chuck as they appear to be very easy to clean an re-use multiple times.
 

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Ok, has anyone taken the base on one of these apart yet? If the base can be disassembled and reassembled they may be great for modding custom coils. I have been following a thread on coil mods using multiple coils and these vortexes may be the perfect test bed. I just may have to order up some nicrome and start playing.

It's bad when you are waiting for one to fail so you can play with it. However, I'm not going there until one is ready to chuck as they appear to be very easy to clean an re-use multiple times.

Somewhere on the forums here someone has already posted photos of Vortex in a Map Tank.

Definately a very moddable thing....
And yanno, with both caps pulled off it slightly reminds me of a 306...the way it is all exposed...but bridgeless even :)
 

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wait wait wait wait wait--our current lack of customer service??? Do you even know what we are doign behind the scenes?

Listen - we are very very busy and we don't have alot of time to respond to every aspect of every post but believe me, there is no current lack of customer service...

I would think that if "their first box" had issues, there might be a problem! I purchased one box myself and posted a glowing review. I also experienced a few problems since my first post. I noted them on this thread for the purpose of letting the supplier be aware that the product is not consistent. I know that the guys over at GotVapes are not making these units themselves, but they are putting their name on this product line. If I go to a restaurant and the food is bad, I am going to tell my waiter. Now the waiter did not cook my food himself, but he is representing the restaurant. Having been in the customer service related field all of my adult life, I count on customers letting me know when something is not working/prepared properly. If the customers don't speak up, word does get out that management is not interested in the quality of their product or customer satisfaction. There is a proper way to communicate a problem to management that does not put them on the defense. That old saying "you attract more flies with honey than vinegar". Customers work just as hard for their money as you work to earn your money. Sometimes people get frustrated and instead of waiting until they calm down, they convey their experience and disappointment in the current state. Which their current state is not good and words are used that can be offensive to the hard working staff. But in the customer service industry, their is a way to defuse the situation where the customer feels their problem has been heard and management is going to address the issue. Dan and Chris, you know these devices are manufactured in another part of the world. There are people and machines assembling and packaging these items. Both of which are capable of error. Consumers should realize this. When an irate customer conveys their frustration with a purchase on this post, through email, or phone calls, its not a good idea to openly chastise them and say that no one else is having these problems. And fire back at the customer leaving them, and everyone else reading these posts, that you don't care about your customers. And then deleting posts because you don't like how they are worded. In the retail world customer service should be your number one concern. Without customers, there is no business. How you have handled complaints and problems with your customers on this thread, concerns me more than some Vortex's being defective. IMO, you should acknowledge the members issues, let them know that you want them to have the best possible experience with your products and direct them to the PM, that you will be sending directly, with the expressed interest in resolving the issue to their satisfaction. That lets them know that as a customer, you want to make them happy and it makes you shine to everyone else reading these posts. You are going to sell more products, even if a few folks have had problems with them, because the customer is going to feel secure that if they might have issues, those issues will be address and they will not be throwing money away. Got Vapes has earned the reputation of bring the newest and most innovative products to the vaping community. But at your current lack of customer service, regarding the Turbine and Vortex, your going to earn the reputation of throwing out new products with no regard to customer satisfaction. Once someone gets burnt, they are not going to put their hands back in the fire! I hope you can see that what I have said is coming from my desire, for your business to grow and thrive, and customers feeling secure with their purchase. :toast:
 

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3 out of my 5 were leakers. Fiddled with a couple of them, and got one to work most of one day, but I am getting alot of burnt gunk and dry hits. Seems like the majority have very good luck, and in a week or so I may try another box. I really like this concept, and the fact that so many people are having good luck leads me to believe that there was just a poor production worker with a houseload of kids and a nagging wife. He just couldnt keep his mind on his work........

So, I am going to try again.
ROFLMAO...... I never thought of that FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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ok,,,,nooby question......do i have to take the alf thingy off,,,,,been doing fine with no fiddleing,,,,,used 2 so far, they last for a while,,,,,,am fine with how i do it,,,,,, take cap off fill put cap back on....done i mean, am i missing something hear. is it better to take alf thing off...and i am not even sure what one is,,,,there was a explanation of one on a thread,,,lolol could have been this one....but, i really dont feel like doing the mod thing......
so if anyone can understand my rambling, I hope someone can answer this for me,,,,Thanks,,,,gonna vape :vapor:
 

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I have 3 sitting on my counter with juice in them
first one- the wick was not lined up with the notch, so I had to take it apart. Put it back together without the ALF. It has had juice in it for 3 days and still no leaks. But it still has that plastic taste
2nd one- worked perfectly without disassembling, but still has plastic taste. No leaks
3rd one- worked perfectly without disassmbling, but still has plastic taste. Very slight leak- not enough to be noticeable until I pick it up and then I have a small amount of juice on my fingers.

The first two have 70/30 Mad Hatter Smooth, the 3rd is OMFG Tobacco (70/30). Since both juices are 70 PG, I don't think any of my problems are related to juice viscosity. I keep going back to these things thru the day HOPING that plasticy taste will go away. But no luck. I really love everything about these- in theory. I just can't get past the odd taste they are adding to my vape. 3 days they have been sitting there with juice in them. If the plastic taste is still there by this evening, I'm giving up.


how can you see if the wick is lined up with the notch? do you have to take the tube off the base?
 

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ok,,,,nooby question......do i have to take the alf thingy off,,,,,been doing fine with no fiddleing,,,,,used 2 so far, they last for a while,,,,,,am fine with how i do it,,,,,, take cap off fill put cap back on....done i mean, am i missing something hear. is it better to take alf thing off...and i am not even sure what one is,,,,there was a explanation of one on a thread,,,lolol could have been this one....but, i really dont feel like doing the mod thing......
so if anyone can understand my rambling, I hope someone can answer this for me,,,,Thanks,,,,gonna vape :vapor:

ALF is the white fiber around the bottom.

It's fine to leave it in if you are happy with the way it is vaping. I actually like my tobacco flavors better with it in.
 

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how can you see if the wick is lined up with the notch? do you have to take the tube off the base?

You have to remove the "ALF" (The batting wrapped around the bottom) to see the notches. If it aint broke don't fix it....

Only mess with it if your not happy with the way it's working. =]
 

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ALF is the white fiber around the bottom.

It's fine to leave it in if you are happy with the way it is vaping. I actually like my tobacco flavors better with it in.

thanks for that explanation,,,,i will leave it,,,,,,it seems fine with the alf with 3.7 ,,,and thats my sweet spot, i have vaped 5 volt but 3.7 just hit it for me :vapor:
 

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You have to remove the "ALF" (The batting wrapped around the bottom) to see the notches. If it aint broke don't fix it....

Only mess with it if your not happy with the way it's working. =]

Unless your like me and just have to mess with anything just to see...
 
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