Imeo needs to establish and incorporate counter counterfeit practices that customers can identify easily with confidence.
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Is there a way you could mark the pieces with an emblem or some other way that people could see a piece is by you, similar to the way silverware is marked and you know its legit?
What always impresses me about your parts and pieces is the way they always fit together so well. For example: I purchased the brass bottom, top, and telescope all of it brass. I mounted my brass stealth cap (1st run) on the top and brass end cap (#143 ss came with brass caps) on the bottom. I installed a new axis plastic and new brass post and fuse, along with a new brass button. All these new and old parts went together perfectly, with out a hitch. All the brass has the same hue, all the joints sit flush, no variations in the tubing, threads, all of it right on. You would never know its made of pieces produced years apart from the other parts. Thats a testament to the standards you have set and continue to produce, its truly impressive, and very well done.
Imeo, the ideas that I have are not new ideas. Pedro made the Caravela easy to identify with his unique style of lining his markings up when assembled. I think you should look at something similar that would make counterfeiting GG's a lot harder, and easier for people to determine whats legit GG.
Imeo, the ideas that I have are not new ideas. Pedro made the Caravela easy to identify with his unique style of lining his markings up when assembled. I think you should look at something similar that would make counterfeiting GG's a lot harder, and easier for people to determine whats legit GG.
I have to lasermark every piece of all GG constructions ripple. And the mark has to be small and complicated too to avoid copys of this mark. I am afraid that this will take much time and much money. But its a solution for sure
Is there a way you could mark the pieces with an emblem or some other way that people could see a piece is by you, similar to the way silverware is marked and you know its legit?
Thank you for your nice words poppa. Without standards you cant make production runs to fit each other. The prossedure is difficult because messurments are taken by hand every 20 pieces to be sure that the production is going smooth and old pieces fit on new pieces. It doesnt reduce production time but only a little but it requires money for the man that works on this prossedure.
Have you seen this??? I'm really surprised with this coming from him... he is saying that nautilus is blatant copy of Ody and that he absolutely does not agree with copying... but at the same time, on one level he is approving copying because of limited production of Ody... so as I see this, he is giving copiers thumb up, no matter what he is saying about not agreeing with copying.
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So basically all Scott said that it is a good copy, but still a copy?
What should he have said "It's a copy, don't buy it"?
It's his "job" to give an honest opinion after all which he did buy mentioning the words copy and not agree with copying.
We DO all agree, that this still is a better alternative than getting frustrated with faulty vaping gear and getting back to smoking?
What should he have said "It's a copy, don't buy it"?
It's his "job" to give an honest opinion after all which he did buy mentioning the words copy and not agree with copying.
We DO all agree, that this still is a better alternative than getting frustrated with faulty vaping gear and getting back to smoking?
We DO all agree that one faulty vaping gear will make you go back to smoking is a lot of BS.
Is it now?
If the first thing you buy does not satisfy, chances are that you get back to old (bad) habits.
If you Do disagree, it would be nicer to hear why instead.
If the first thing you buy does not satisfy, chances are that you get back to old (bad) habits.
If you Do disagree, it would be nicer to hear why instead.
You can't call those who just tried vaping for a couple of hours or days as someone who really quit smoking. They just tried to quit smoking but never really did. A month old or year old vaper will not go back to smoking just because he bought and tried one faulty vape gear.
But it still is V1 which while far better than most of the vaping gear out there isn't V2 or Ithaca.
First of all, people who are starting vaping with Ody or other mod atty with more skill required are below 1%... if there are at all people like that... I have never heard of one.
Second, he is saying "I'm against copying but because Ody production is limited this clon is good replacement". He didn't say something like "good copy but buy other original atty, do not buy copies". He didn't just gave his opinion about copy, he said it's good alternative if you can not get original Ody.
The bottom line is that if he is against copies as he says, he can reject doing recension for it. It's that simple.
Second, he is saying "I'm against copying but because Ody production is limited this clon is good replacement". He didn't say something like "good copy but buy other original atty, do not buy copies". He didn't just gave his opinion about copy, he said it's good alternative if you can not get original Ody.
The bottom line is that if he is against copies as he says, he can reject doing recension for it. It's that simple.
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Let it go guys. You can not stop it, and it will only continue to make you sick. Some people not only know what is right, they do what is right...others do not and will always find a way to justify the wrong. It's unbelievably unfortunate, but true.
Guys, as river said, let it go for 2 reasons:
1. Ody v1 is an old design and GG people always vape improved designs like Ody V2 and soon Ithaka
2. China just advertise us. Now Ody and GG series are even more famous than it was
3. This copy is a compliment for all of you that vape the original product that came from an original thought
4. Copiers are not competitors in any way because when I will make a new Ody batch, people will still buy the original. So letting people buy GG series (even if its fake), they will always know what GG series can make for them and they will buy all GG series new (and old) products
1. Ody v1 is an old design and GG people always vape improved designs like Ody V2 and soon Ithaka
2. China just advertise us. Now Ody and GG series are even more famous than it was
3. This copy is a compliment for all of you that vape the original product that came from an original thought
4. Copiers are not competitors in any way because when I will make a new Ody batch, people will still buy the original. So letting people buy GG series (even if its fake), they will always know what GG series can make for them and they will buy all GG series new (and old) products
That one is even worst because it's made of chromed copper, at least the brushed one was actually SS...
As far as what Scott said, i think he gave his honest opinion. Does that clone works good? Of course it does, it's a copy of the Odysseus (my all time favourite atty)! Is it better than many mid-price atty around? of course it is, again it's a copy of the Ody and being a copy of something marvellous it has to work at least fine!
Is it a blatant copy? yes it is, does Scott promote copying? no, he says copying is to blame....
Would i buy the copy? No ty, i already own two Odys and I preordered the Ithaka
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